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From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: kpromoted: Hot page info collection and promotion daemon
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:52:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <038d0332-2146-4bda-adf6-03ef58dcc3b5@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9g6JIAPZof2eFbJ@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On 17-Mar-25 8:35 PM, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 09:09:18AM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
>> On 13-Mar-25 10:14 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Mar 2025, Bharata B Rao wrote:
>>>
>>>> +static int page_should_be_promoted(struct page_hotness_info *phi)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    struct page *page = pfn_to_online_page(phi->pfn);
>>>> +    unsigned long now = jiffies;
>>>> +    struct folio *folio;
>>>> +
>>>> +    if (!page || is_zone_device_page(page))
>>>> +        return false;
>>>> +
>>>> +    folio = page_folio(page);
>>>> +    if (!folio_test_lru(folio)) {
>>>> +        count_vm_event(KPROMOTED_MIG_NON_LRU);
>>>> +        return false;
>>>> +    }
>>>> +    if (folio_nid(folio) == phi->hot_node) {
>>>> +        count_vm_event(KPROMOTED_MIG_RIGHT_NODE);
>>>> +        return false;
>>>> +    }
>>>
>>> How about using the LRU age itself:
>>
>> Sounds like a good check for page hotness.
>>
>>>
>>> if (folio_test_active())
>>>      return true;
>>
>> But the numbers I obtained with this check added, didn't really hit this
>> condition all that much. I was running a multi-threaded application that
>> allocates enough memory such that the allocation spills over from DRAM node
>> to the CXL node. Threads keep touching the memory pages in random order.
>>
> 
> Is demotion enabled by any chance?

Yes, I thought enabling demotion is required to create enough room in 
the toptier to handle promotion.

> 
> i.e. are you sure it's actually allocating from CXL and not demoting
> cold stuff to CXL?

But then I realized that spill over was caused by demotion rather than 
initial allocation even when I used MPOL_BIND | MPOL_F_NUMA_BALANCING 
policy with both toptier and CXL node in the nodemask.

> 
>> kpromoted_recorded_accesses 960620 /* Number of recorded accesses */
>> kpromoted_recorded_hwhints 960620  /* Nr accesses via HW hints, IBS in this
>> case */
>> kpromoted_recorded_pgtscans 0
>> kpromoted_record_toptier 638006 /* Nr toptier accesses */
>> kpromoted_record_added 321234 /* Nr (CXL) accesses that are tracked */
>> kpromoted_record_exists 1380
>> kpromoted_mig_right_node 0
>> kpromoted_mig_non_lru 226
>> kpromoted_mig_lru_active 47 /* Number of accesses considered for promotion
>> as determined by folio_test_active() check */

However disabling demotion has no impact on this number (and hence the 
folio_test_active() check)

Regards,
Bharata.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-17 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06  5:45 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Kernel daemon for detecting and promoting hot pages Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA too Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 12:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-07  3:00     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 17:24   ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 17:45     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-06 18:19       ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 18:42         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-06 20:03           ` Gregory Price
2025-03-24  2:55   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 14:51     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: kpromoted: Hot page info collection and promotion daemon Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 17:22   ` Mike Day
2025-03-07  3:27     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-13 16:44   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-17  3:39     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-17 15:05       ` Gregory Price
2025-03-17 16:22         ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2025-03-17 18:24           ` Gregory Price
2025-03-13 20:36   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-17  3:49     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-14 15:28   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-18  4:09     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-18 14:17       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-24  3:35   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-28  4:55     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-24 13:43   ` Gregory Price
2025-03-24 14:34     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86: ibs: In-kernel IBS driver for memory access profiling Bharata B Rao
2025-03-14 15:38   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86: ibs: Enable IBS profiling for memory accesses Bharata B Rao
2025-03-16 22:00 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Kernel daemon for detecting and promoting hot pages SeongJae Park
2025-03-18  6:33   ` Raghavendra K T
2025-03-18 10:45   ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-18  5:28 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20  9:07   ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-21  6:19     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25  8:18 ` Bharata B Rao

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