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To: Waiman Long , Qian Cai , Toshiki Fukasawa , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , "dan.j.williams@intel.com" Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "mhocko@kernel.org" , "adobriyan@gmail.com" , "hch@lst.de" , "sfr@canb.auug.org.au" , "mst@redhat.com" , Naoya Horiguchi , Junichi Nomura References: <20190906081027.15477-1-t-fukasawa@vx.jp.nec.com> <40a1ce2e-1384-b869-97d0-7195b5b47de0@redhat.com> <6a99e003-e1ab-b9e8-7b25-bc5605ab0eb2@vx.jp.nec.com> <31fd3c86-5852-1863-93bd-8df9da9f95b4@vx.jp.nec.com> <38e58d23-c20b-4e68-5f56-20bba2be2d6c@redhat.com> <59c946f8-843d-c017-f342-d007a5e14a85@redhat.com> <1568737304.5576.162.camel@lca.pw> From: David Hildenbrand Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=david@redhat.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFXLn5EBEAC+zYvAFJxCBY9Tr1xZgcESmxVNI/0ffzE/ZQOiHJl6mGkmA1R7/uUpiCjJ dBrn+lhhOYjjNefFQou6478faXE6o2AhmebqT4KiQoUQFV4R7y1KMEKoSyy8hQaK1umALTdL QZLQMzNE74ap+GDK0wnacPQFpcG1AE9RMq3aeErY5tujekBS32jfC/7AnH7I0v1v1TbbK3Gp XNeiN4QroO+5qaSr0ID2sz5jtBLRb15RMre27E1ImpaIv2Jw8NJgW0k/D1RyKCwaTsgRdwuK Kx/Y91XuSBdz0uOyU/S8kM1+ag0wvsGlpBVxRR/xw/E8M7TEwuCZQArqqTCmkG6HGcXFT0V9 PXFNNgV5jXMQRwU0O/ztJIQqsE5LsUomE//bLwzj9IVsaQpKDqW6TAPjcdBDPLHvriq7kGjt WhVhdl0qEYB8lkBEU7V2Yb+SYhmhpDrti9Fq1EsmhiHSkxJcGREoMK/63r9WLZYI3+4W2rAc UucZa4OT27U5ZISjNg3Ev0rxU5UH2/pT4wJCfxwocmqaRr6UYmrtZmND89X0KigoFD/XSeVv jwBRNjPAubK9/k5NoRrYqztM9W6sJqrH8+UWZ1Idd/DdmogJh0gNC0+N42Za9yBRURfIdKSb B3JfpUqcWwE7vUaYrHG1nw54pLUoPG6sAA7Mehl3nd4pZUALHwARAQABzSREYXZpZCBIaWxk ZW5icmFuZCA8ZGF2aWRAcmVkaGF0LmNvbT7CwX4EEwECACgFAljj9eoCGwMFCQlmAYAGCwkI BwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEE3eEPcA/4Na5IIP/3T/FIQMxIfNzZshIq687qgG 8UbspuE/YSUDdv7r5szYTK6KPTlqN8NAcSfheywbuYD9A4ZeSBWD3/NAVUdrCaRP2IvFyELj xoMvfJccbq45BxzgEspg/bVahNbyuBpLBVjVWwRtFCUEXkyazksSv8pdTMAs9IucChvFmmq3 jJ2vlaz9lYt/lxN246fIVceckPMiUveimngvXZw21VOAhfQ+/sofXF8JCFv2mFcBDoa7eYob s0FLpmqFaeNRHAlzMWgSsP80qx5nWWEvRLdKWi533N2vC/EyunN3HcBwVrXH4hxRBMco3jvM m8VKLKao9wKj82qSivUnkPIwsAGNPdFoPbgghCQiBjBe6A75Z2xHFrzo7t1jg7nQfIyNC7ez MZBJ59sqA9EDMEJPlLNIeJmqslXPjmMFnE7Mby/+335WJYDulsRybN+W5rLT5aMvhC6x6POK z55fMNKrMASCzBJum2Fwjf/VnuGRYkhKCqqZ8gJ3OvmR50tInDV2jZ1DQgc3i550T5JDpToh dPBxZocIhzg+MBSRDXcJmHOx/7nQm3iQ6iLuwmXsRC6f5FbFefk9EjuTKcLMvBsEx+2DEx0E UnmJ4hVg7u1PQ+2Oy+Lh/opK/BDiqlQ8Pz2jiXv5xkECvr/3Sv59hlOCZMOaiLTTjtOIU7Tq 7ut6OL64oAq+zsFNBFXLn5EBEADn1959INH2cwYJv0tsxf5MUCghCj/CA/lc/LMthqQ773ga uB9mN+F1rE9cyyXb6jyOGn+GUjMbnq1o121Vm0+neKHUCBtHyseBfDXHA6m4B3mUTWo13nid 0e4AM71r0DS8+KYh6zvweLX/LL5kQS9GQeT+QNroXcC1NzWbitts6TZ+IrPOwT1hfB4WNC+X 2n4AzDqp3+ILiVST2DT4VBc11Gz6jijpC/KI5Al8ZDhRwG47LUiuQmt3yqrmN63V9wzaPhC+ xbwIsNZlLUvuRnmBPkTJwwrFRZvwu5GPHNndBjVpAfaSTOfppyKBTccu2AXJXWAE1Xjh6GOC 8mlFjZwLxWFqdPHR1n2aPVgoiTLk34LR/bXO+e0GpzFXT7enwyvFFFyAS0Nk1q/7EChPcbRb hJqEBpRNZemxmg55zC3GLvgLKd5A09MOM2BrMea+l0FUR+PuTenh2YmnmLRTro6eZ/qYwWkC u8FFIw4pT0OUDMyLgi+GI1aMpVogTZJ70FgV0pUAlpmrzk/bLbRkF3TwgucpyPtcpmQtTkWS gDS50QG9DR/1As3LLLcNkwJBZzBG6PWbvcOyrwMQUF1nl4SSPV0LLH63+BrrHasfJzxKXzqg rW28CTAE2x8qi7e/6M/+XXhrsMYG+uaViM7n2je3qKe7ofum3s4vq7oFCPsOgwARAQABwsFl BBgBAgAPBQJVy5+RAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEE3eEPcA/4NagOsP/jPoIBb/iXVbM+fmSHOjEshl KMwEl/m5iLj3iHnHPVLBUWrXPdS7iQijJA/VLxjnFknhaS60hkUNWexDMxVVP/6lbOrs4bDZ NEWDMktAeqJaFtxackPszlcpRVkAs6Msn9tu8hlvB517pyUgvuD7ZS9gGOMmYwFQDyytpepo YApVV00P0u3AaE0Cj/o71STqGJKZxcVhPaZ+LR+UCBZOyKfEyq+ZN311VpOJZ1IvTExf+S/5 lqnciDtbO3I4Wq0ArLX1gs1q1XlXLaVaA3yVqeC8E7kOchDNinD3hJS4OX0e1gdsx/e6COvy qNg5aL5n0Kl4fcVqM0LdIhsubVs4eiNCa5XMSYpXmVi3HAuFyg9dN+x8thSwI836FoMASwOl C7tHsTjnSGufB+D7F7ZBT61BffNBBIm1KdMxcxqLUVXpBQHHlGkbwI+3Ye+nE6HmZH7IwLwV W+Ajl7oYF+jeKaH4DZFtgLYGLtZ1LDwKPjX7VAsa4Yx7S5+EBAaZGxK510MjIx6SGrZWBrrV TEvdV00F2MnQoeXKzD7O4WFbL55hhyGgfWTHwZ457iN9SgYi1JLPqWkZB0JRXIEtjd4JEQcx +8Umfre0Xt4713VxMygW0PnQt5aSQdMD58jHFxTk092mU+yIHj5LeYgvwSgZN4airXk5yRXl SE+xAvmumFBY Organization: Red Hat GmbH Message-ID: <037df7a0-c015-c656-9744-00bba486c11e@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 22:23:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.71]); Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:23:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On 17.09.19 19:04, Waiman Long wrote: > On 9/17/19 12:21 PM, Qian Cai wrote: >> On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 11:49 -0400, Waiman Long wrote: >>> On 9/17/19 3:13 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>> On 17.09.19 04:34, Toshiki Fukasawa wrote: >>>>> On 2019/09/09 16:46, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>>>> Let's take a step back here to understand the issues I am aware of. I >>>>>> think we should solve this for good now: >>>>>> >>>>>> A PFN walker takes a look at a random PFN at a random point in time. It >>>>>> finds a PFN with SECTION_MARKED_PRESENT && !SECTION_IS_ONLINE. The >>>>>> options are: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. It is buddy memory (add_memory()) that has not been online yet. The >>>>>> memmap contains garbage. Don't access. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with a valid memmap. Access it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with an invalid memmap, because the section >>>>>> is only partially present: E.g., device starts at offset 64MB within a >>>>>> section or the device ends at offset 64MB within a section. Don't access it. >>>>> I don't agree with case #3. In the case, struct page area is not allocated on >>>>> ZONE_DEVICE, but is allocated on system memory. So I think we can access the >>>>> struct pages. What do you mean "invalid memmap"? >>>> No, that's not the case. There is no memory, especially not system >>>> memory. We only allow partially present sections (sub-section memory >>>> hotplug) for ZONE_DEVICE. >>>> >>>> invalid memmap == memmap was not initialized == struct pages contains >>>> garbage. There is a memmap, but accessing it (e.g., pfn_to_nid()) will >>>> trigger a BUG. >>>> >>> As long as the page structures exist, they should be initialized to some >>> known state. We could set PagePoison for those invalid memmap. It is the >> Sounds like you want to run page_init_poison() by default. > > Yes for those pages that are not initialized otherwise. I don't want to > run page_init_poison() for the whole ZONE_DEVICE memory range as it can > take a while if we are talking about TBs of persistent memory. Also most > of the pages will be reinitialized anyway in the init process. So it is > mostly a wasted effort. However, for those reserved pages that are not > being exported to the memory management layer, having them initialized > to a known state will cause less problem down the road. > No hacks please. There has to be a proper way to identify if a memmap was initialized or not. Fake-initializing a memmap is *not* the answer. -- Thanks, David / dhildenb