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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org, mgorman@suse.de,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] asynchronously scan and free empty user PTE pages
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:55:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0317efd5-f7f8-4fd2-8892-befe9fe97f33@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f56d1e9-2c23-42e5-9aef-6b29d072138e@redhat.com>



On 2024/6/18 17:40, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.06.24 09:51, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On 2024/6/18 01:49, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No strong opinion, something synchronous sounds to me like the
>>>>> low-hanging fruit, that could add the infrastructure to be used by
>>>>> something more advanced/synchronously :)
>>>>
>>>> Got it, I will try to do the following in the next version.
>>>>
>>>> a. for MADV_DONTNEED case, try synchronous reclaim as you said
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that really is the low hanging fruit that would cover quite some
>>> cases already: (1) reclaim when MADV_DONTNEED spans the complete page
>>> table.
>>
>> I will check and free the PTE page in the zap_pte_range() if the
>> (end - addr >= PMD_SIZE) condition is met.
>>
>>>
>>> Then, there is (2) reclaim when MADV_DONTNEED spans only part of the
>>> page table (e.g., single PTE), but my best guess is that it's better to
>>> scan for that asynchronously than making possibly each MADV_DONTNEED
>>> sycall invocation slower.
>>
>> Maybe just mark the vma, and then scan it in the system reclaim path.
>>
>> I also plan to do this in the MADV_FREE case, instead of adding an
>> asynchronous madvise option first.
>>
>>>
>>> (1) would already help a lot and showcase how the locking/machinery
>>> would work.
>>>
>>>
>>>> b. for MADV_FREE case:
>>>>
>>>>      - add a madvise option for synchronous reclaim
>>>>
>>>>      - add another madvise option to mark the vma, then add its
>>>>              corresponding mm to a global list, and then traverse
>>>>              the list and reclaim it when the memory is tight and
>>>>              enters the system reclaim path.
>>>>              (maybe there is an option to unmark)
>>>>
>>>> c. for s390 case you mentioned, create a CONFIG_FREE_PT first, and
>>>>       then s390 will not select this config until the problem is 
>>>> solved.
>>>>
>>>> d. for lockless scan, try using disabling IRQ or (mmap read lock +
>>>> pte_offset_map_nolock).
>>>
>>> Although d) really only is desired when scanning asynchronously I think.
>>> During (1) above, we know that the table will be very likely empty
>>> (unless weird race).
>>
>> Agree.
> 
> Again, thanks for working on this. Let me know (can also do privately) 
> if you run into any issues or think I can be of help. :)

That's great, thank you very much!

> 


      reply	other threads:[~2024-06-18  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-13  8:38 Qi Zheng
2024-06-13  8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: pgtable: move pte_free_defer() out of CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE Qi Zheng
2024-06-13  8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: pgtable: make pte_offset_map_nolock() return pmdval Qi Zheng
2024-06-13  8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: free empty user PTE pages Qi Zheng
2024-06-13  9:04 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] asynchronously scan and " David Hildenbrand
2024-06-13  9:32   ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-13 10:25     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-13 11:59       ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-14  3:32         ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-17 17:51           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-18  7:52             ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-14  7:53         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-14 10:49           ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-17 17:49             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-18  7:51               ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-18  9:40                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-18  9:55                   ` Qi Zheng [this message]

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