From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org, mgorman@suse.de,
muchun.song@linux.dev, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] asynchronously scan and free empty user PTE pages
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:55:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0317efd5-f7f8-4fd2-8892-befe9fe97f33@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f56d1e9-2c23-42e5-9aef-6b29d072138e@redhat.com>
On 2024/6/18 17:40, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.06.24 09:51, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On 2024/6/18 01:49, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No strong opinion, something synchronous sounds to me like the
>>>>> low-hanging fruit, that could add the infrastructure to be used by
>>>>> something more advanced/synchronously :)
>>>>
>>>> Got it, I will try to do the following in the next version.
>>>>
>>>> a. for MADV_DONTNEED case, try synchronous reclaim as you said
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that really is the low hanging fruit that would cover quite some
>>> cases already: (1) reclaim when MADV_DONTNEED spans the complete page
>>> table.
>>
>> I will check and free the PTE page in the zap_pte_range() if the
>> (end - addr >= PMD_SIZE) condition is met.
>>
>>>
>>> Then, there is (2) reclaim when MADV_DONTNEED spans only part of the
>>> page table (e.g., single PTE), but my best guess is that it's better to
>>> scan for that asynchronously than making possibly each MADV_DONTNEED
>>> sycall invocation slower.
>>
>> Maybe just mark the vma, and then scan it in the system reclaim path.
>>
>> I also plan to do this in the MADV_FREE case, instead of adding an
>> asynchronous madvise option first.
>>
>>>
>>> (1) would already help a lot and showcase how the locking/machinery
>>> would work.
>>>
>>>
>>>> b. for MADV_FREE case:
>>>>
>>>> - add a madvise option for synchronous reclaim
>>>>
>>>> - add another madvise option to mark the vma, then add its
>>>> corresponding mm to a global list, and then traverse
>>>> the list and reclaim it when the memory is tight and
>>>> enters the system reclaim path.
>>>> (maybe there is an option to unmark)
>>>>
>>>> c. for s390 case you mentioned, create a CONFIG_FREE_PT first, and
>>>> then s390 will not select this config until the problem is
>>>> solved.
>>>>
>>>> d. for lockless scan, try using disabling IRQ or (mmap read lock +
>>>> pte_offset_map_nolock).
>>>
>>> Although d) really only is desired when scanning asynchronously I think.
>>> During (1) above, we know that the table will be very likely empty
>>> (unless weird race).
>>
>> Agree.
>
> Again, thanks for working on this. Let me know (can also do privately)
> if you run into any issues or think I can be of help. :)
That's great, thank you very much!
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-18 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-13 8:38 Qi Zheng
2024-06-13 8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: pgtable: move pte_free_defer() out of CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE Qi Zheng
2024-06-13 8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: pgtable: make pte_offset_map_nolock() return pmdval Qi Zheng
2024-06-13 8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: free empty user PTE pages Qi Zheng
2024-06-13 9:04 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] asynchronously scan and " David Hildenbrand
2024-06-13 9:32 ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-13 10:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-13 11:59 ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-14 3:32 ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-17 17:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-18 7:52 ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-14 7:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-14 10:49 ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-17 17:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-18 7:51 ` Qi Zheng
2024-06-18 9:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-18 9:55 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
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