From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
Cc: Jordan Niethe <jniethe@nvidia.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, balbirs@nvidia.com,
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Felix.Kuehling@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from physical address space
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:21:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <02D37B25-E2E4-4E1E-A714-1CF90AC7AA35@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aV6nvCw2ugAbSpFL@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com>
On 7 Jan 2026, at 13:36, Matthew Brost wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 08:18:12PM +1100, Jordan Niethe wrote:
>> Today, when creating these device private struct pages, the first step
>> is to use request_free_mem_region() to get a range of physical address
>> space large enough to represent the devices memory. This allocated
>> physical address range is then remapped as device private memory using
>> memremap_pages.
>>
>> Needing allocation of physical address space has some problems:
>>
>> 1) There may be insufficient physical address space to represent the
>> device memory. KASLR reducing the physical address space and VM
>> configurations with limited physical address space increase the
>> likelihood of hitting this especially as device memory increases. This
>> has been observed to prevent device private from being initialized.
>>
>> 2) Attempting to add the device private pages to the linear map at
>> addresses beyond the actual physical memory causes issues on
>> architectures like aarch64 - meaning the feature does not work there [0].
>>
>> This series changes device private memory so that it does not require
>> allocation of physical address space and these problems are avoided.
>> Instead of using the physical address space, we introduce a "device
>> private address space" and allocate from there.
>>
>> A consequence of placing the device private pages outside of the
>> physical address space is that they no longer have a PFN. However, it is
>> still necessary to be able to look up a corresponding device private
>> page from a device private PTE entry, which means that we still require
>> some way to index into this device private address space. Instead of a
>> PFN, device private pages use an offset into this device private address
>> space to look up device private struct pages.
>>
>> The problem that then needs to be addressed is how to avoid confusing
>> these device private offsets with PFNs. It is the inherent limited usage
>> of the device private pages themselves which make this possible. A
>> device private page is only used for userspace mappings, we do not need
>> to be concerned with them being used within the mm more broadly. This
>> means that the only way that the core kernel looks up these pages is via
>> the page table, where their PTE already indicates if they refer to a
>> device private page via their swap type, e.g. SWP_DEVICE_WRITE. We can
>> use this information to determine if the PTE contains a PFN which should
>> be looked up in the page map, or a device private offset which should be
>> looked up elsewhere.
>>
>> This applies when we are creating PTE entries for device private pages -
>> because they have their own type there are already must be handled
>> separately, so it is a small step to convert them to a device private
>> PFN now too.
>>
>> The first part of the series updates callers where device private
>> offsets might now be encountered to track this extra state.
>>
>> The last patch contains the bulk of the work where we change how we
>> convert between device private pages to device private offsets and then
>> use a new interface for allocating device private pages without the need
>> for reserving physical address space.
>>
>> By removing the device private pages from the physical address space,
>> this series also opens up the possibility to moving away from tracking
>> device private memory using struct pages in the future. This is
>> desirable as on systems with large amounts of memory these device
>> private struct pages use a signifiant amount of memory and take a
>> significant amount of time to initialize.
>>
>> *** Changes in v2 ***
>>
>> The most significant change in v2 is addressing code paths that are
>> common between MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE and MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT devices.
>>
>> This had been overlooked in previous revisions.
>>
>> To do this we introduce a migrate_pfn_from_page() helper which will call
>> device_private_offset_to_page() and set the MIGRATE_PFN_DEVICE_PRIVATE
>> flag if required.
>>
>> In places where we could have a device private offset
>> (MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE) or a pfn (MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT) we update to
>> use an mpfn to disambiguate. This includes some users in the drivers
>> and migrate_device_{pfns,range}().
>>
>> Seeking opinions on using the mpfns like this or if a new type would be
>> preferred.
>>
>> - mm/migrate_device: Introduce migrate_pfn_from_page() helper
>> - New to series
>>
>> - drm/amdkfd: Use migrate pfns internally
>> - New to series
>>
>> - mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns,range}() take mpfns
>> - New to series
>>
>> - mm/migrate_device: Add migrate PFN flag to track device private pages
>> - Update for migrate_pfn_from_page()
>> - Rename to MIGRATE_PFN_DEVICE_PRIVATE
>> - drm/amd: Check adev->gmc.xgmi.connected_to_cpu
>> - lib/test_hmm.c: Check chunk->pagemap.type == MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE
>>
>> - mm: Add helpers to create migration entries from struct pages
>> - Add a flags param
>>
>> - mm: Add a new swap type for migration entries of device private pages
>> - Add softleaf_is_migration_device_private_read()
>>
>> - mm: Add helpers to create device private entries from struct pages
>> - Add a flags param
>>
>> - mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space
>> - Make sure last member of struct dev_pagemap remains DECLARE_FLEX_ARRAY(struct range, ranges);
>>
>> Testing:
>> - selftests/mm/hmm-tests on an amd64 VM
>>
>> * NOTE: I will need help in testing the driver changes *
>>
>
> Thanks for the series. For some reason Intel's CI couldn't apply this
> series to drm-tip to get results [1]. I'll manually apply this and run all
> our SVM tests and get back you on results + review the changes here. For
> future reference if you want to use our CI system, the series must apply
> to drm-tip, feel free to rebase this series and just send to intel-xe
> list if you want CI results.
>
> I was also wondering if Nvidia could help review one our core MM patches
> [2] which is gating enabling 2M device pages too?
I will take a look. But next time, do you mind Ccing MM maintainers and
reviewers based on MAINTAINERS file? Otherwise, it is hard for people to
check every email from linux-mm.
Thanks.
>
> Matt
>
> [1] https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/159738/
> [2] https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/694775/?series=159119&rev=1
>
>> Revisions:
>> - RFC: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251128044146.80050-1-jniethe@nvidia.com/
>> - v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251231043154.42931-1-jniethe@nvidia.com/
>>
>> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAMj1kXFZ=4hLL1w6iCV5O5uVoVLHAJbc0rr40j24ObenAjXe9w@mail.gmail.com/
>>
>> Jordan Niethe (11):
>> mm/migrate_device: Introduce migrate_pfn_from_page() helper
>> drm/amdkfd: Use migrate pfns internally
>> mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns,range}() take mpfns
>> mm/migrate_device: Add migrate PFN flag to track device private pages
>> mm/page_vma_mapped: Add flags to page_vma_mapped_walk::pfn to track
>> device private pages
>> mm: Add helpers to create migration entries from struct pages
>> mm: Add a new swap type for migration entries of device private pages
>> mm: Add helpers to create device private entries from struct pages
>> mm/util: Add flag to track device private pages in page snapshots
>> mm/hmm: Add flag to track device private pages
>> mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space
>>
>> Documentation/mm/hmm.rst | 11 +-
>> arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv_uvmem.c | 43 ++---
>> drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_migrate.c | 45 +++---
>> drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_migrate.h | 2 +-
>> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_pagemap.c | 11 +-
>> drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_dmem.c | 45 ++----
>> drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_svm.c | 37 ++---
>> fs/proc/page.c | 6 +-
>> include/drm/drm_pagemap.h | 8 +-
>> include/linux/hmm.h | 7 +-
>> include/linux/leafops.h | 116 ++++++++++++--
>> include/linux/memremap.h | 64 +++++++-
>> include/linux/migrate.h | 23 ++-
>> include/linux/mm.h | 9 +-
>> include/linux/rmap.h | 33 +++-
>> include/linux/swap.h | 8 +-
>> include/linux/swapops.h | 136 ++++++++++++++++
>> lib/test_hmm.c | 86 ++++++----
>> mm/debug.c | 9 +-
>> mm/hmm.c | 5 +-
>> mm/huge_memory.c | 43 ++---
>> mm/hugetlb.c | 15 +-
>> mm/memory.c | 5 +-
>> mm/memremap.c | 193 ++++++++++++++++++-----
>> mm/migrate.c | 6 +-
>> mm/migrate_device.c | 76 +++++----
>> mm/mm_init.c | 8 +-
>> mm/mprotect.c | 10 +-
>> mm/page_vma_mapped.c | 32 +++-
>> mm/rmap.c | 59 ++++---
>> mm/util.c | 8 +-
>> mm/vmscan.c | 2 +-
>> 32 files changed, 822 insertions(+), 339 deletions(-)
>>
>>
>> base-commit: f8f9c1f4d0c7a64600e2ca312dec824a0bc2f1da
>> --
>> 2.34.1
>>
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-07 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 9:18 Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] mm/migrate_device: Introduce migrate_pfn_from_page() helper Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:03 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:49 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 21:03 ` Kuehling, Felix
2026-01-09 22:47 ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] drm/amdkfd: Use migrate pfns internally Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 22:00 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:56 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns,range}() take mpfns Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] mm/migrate_device: Add migrate PFN flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:01 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:41 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] mm/page_vma_mapped: Add flags to page_vma_mapped_walk::pfn " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm: Add helpers to create migration entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Add a new swap type for migration entries of device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mm: Add helpers to create device private entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] mm/util: Add flag to track device private pages in page snapshots Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] mm/hmm: Add flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from " Matthew Brost
2026-01-07 20:21 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-01-08 2:25 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 5:42 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 0:01 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 0:31 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-09 1:27 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 6:22 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-07 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-07 20:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-07 21:02 ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-08 1:29 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08 1:08 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-08 1:49 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08 2:55 ` Jordan Niethe
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