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However, I don't >> think we should try to re-implement the existing KSM userspace ABIs >> over SKSM. > > No, absolutely. The only point (for me) for your new synchronous one > would be if it replaced the kernel thread async scanning, which would > make the old user space interface basically pointless. > > But I don't actually know who uses KSM right now. My reaction really > comes from a "it's not nice code in the kernel", not from any actual > knowledge of the users. > > Maybe it works really well in some cloud VM environment, and we're > stuck with it forever. Exactly that; and besides the VM use-case, lately people stated using it in the context of interpreters (IIRC inside Meta) quite successfully as well. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb