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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] mmput: use notifier chain to call subsystem exit handler.
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 19:25:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <019CCE693E457142B37B791721487FD918085329@storexdag01.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140703231541.GR26537@8bytes.org>

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On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 01:15 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> Hi Jerome,
> 
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 02:30:26PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > Joerg do you still object to this patch ?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > Again the natural place to call this is from mmput and the fact that many
> > other subsystem already call in from there to cleanup there own per mm data
> > structure is a testimony that this is a valid use case and valid design.
> 
> Device drivers are something different than subsystems. 
I think that hsa (kfd) and hmm _are_ subsystems, if not in definition
than in practice. Our model is not a classic device-driver model in the
sense that our ioctl's are more like syscalls than traditional
device-driver ioctls. e.g our kfd_open() doesn't open a kfd device or
even a gpu device, it *binds* a *process* to a device. So basically, our
ioctls are not related to a specific H/W instance (specific GPU in case
of kfd) but more related to a specific process.

Once we can agree on that, than I think we can agree that kfd and hmm
can and should be bounded to mm struct and not file descriptors.

	Oded

> I think the
> point that the mmu_notifier struct can not be freed in the .release
> call-back is a weak reason for introducing a new notifier. In the end
> every user of mmu_notifiers has to call mmu_notifier_register somewhere
> (file-open/ioctl path or somewhere else where the mm<->device binding is
>  set up) and can call mmu_notifier_unregister in a similar path which
> destroys the binding.
> 
> > You pointed out that the cleanup should be done from the device driver file
> > close call. But as i stressed some of the new user will not necessarily have
> > a device file open hence no way for them to free the associated structure
> > except with hackish delayed job.
> 
> Please tell me more about these 'new users', how does mm<->device binding
> is set up there if no fd is used?
> 
> 
> 	Joerg
> 
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-06 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-28  2:00 mm preparatory patches for HMM and IOMMUv2 Jérôme Glisse
2014-06-28  2:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] mmput: use notifier chain to call subsystem exit handler Jérôme Glisse
2014-06-30  3:49   ` John Hubbard
2014-06-30 15:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-06-30 14:41   ` Gabbay, Oded
2014-06-30 15:06     ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]     ` <019CCE693E457142B37B791721487FD91806B836-0nO7ALo/ziwxlywnonMhLEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-30 15:40       ` Joerg Roedel
2014-06-30 16:06         ` Jerome Glisse
2014-06-30 18:16           ` Joerg Roedel
2014-06-30 18:35             ` Jerome Glisse
2014-06-30 18:57               ` Lewycky, Andrew
2014-07-01  9:41                 ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]               ` <20140630183556.GB3280-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-01  9:15                 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-07-01  9:29                   ` Gabbay, Oded
     [not found]                     ` <019CCE693E457142B37B791721487FD91806DD8B-0nO7ALo/ziwxlywnonMhLEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-01 11:00                       ` Joerg Roedel
2014-07-01 19:33                         ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                           ` <20140701193343.GB3322-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-01 21:06                             ` Joerg Roedel
2014-07-01 21:32                               ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-03 18:30                                 ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                                   ` <20140703183024.GA3306-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-03 23:15                                     ` Joerg Roedel
2014-07-04  0:03                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-06 19:25                                       ` Gabbay, Oded [this message]
2014-07-07 10:11                                         ` joro
2014-07-07 10:36                                           ` Oded Gabbay
2014-07-07 10:43                                           ` Oded Gabbay
     [not found]                                             ` <1404729783.31606.1.camel-OrheeFI7RUaGvNAqNQFwiPZ4XP/Yx64J@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-08  8:00                                               ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
2014-07-08 17:03                                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-10-11 19:03                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-12 17:41                                                     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-11-20 15:45                                                     ` David Woodhouse
2014-06-30 15:37   ` Joerg Roedel
2014-06-28  2:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: differentiate unmap for vmscan from other unmap Jérôme Glisse
2014-06-30  3:58   ` John Hubbard
2014-06-30 15:58     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-06-28  2:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] mmu_notifier: add event information to address invalidation v2 Jérôme Glisse
2014-06-30  5:22   ` John Hubbard
2014-06-30 15:57     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-01  1:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-28  2:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] mmu_notifier: pass through vma to invalidate_range and invalidate_page Jérôme Glisse
2014-06-30  3:29   ` John Hubbard
2014-06-30 16:00     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-01  2:04   ` Linus Torvalds

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