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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 65BB5A001B X-Stat-Signature: i9wh8whp9okffkzfk1ocyfp59yk4dy65 X-HE-Tag: 1741276656-219096 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18DXDqMeqC6dLZ0l4xo0IUsKW/0+lGANBpjPjasllRiGo8U23dUwzu4jqXUkP7y5wj85MyqKWGKmvOpyRTAck5vXj0yIdhvtPoQC4XBOUDdyRJAuAcSi4IisQB+V3RjutKJ1Ym6DxYf8IOB6WdefyK/eMd58olOcwhuzL3XLx2xo6iwZTCwFj2rDLefNy2jz+NbUf4z1WumtumddLC3HE1AMRZ0r1KaGp/UkVm1ZbQR8tfAz5f/DtZ9jN5zo7tP8CizjzjbAeaN0+cVZBgph+3KTU3Rm8TnnlsjgmhNgPVAilSNGS+H+IKNTPl32mCEWZH1jkEG1FGxo0agGoWIY01cNRUyD7sliHuB3kc6+98poeWLJashlxnqAvnJcFUnyWSfr3k6HHkc+TC/45BcZck3MDlww04QVKOLWrzZSNLR/cdOKgt8jtedGexC3Sjb6ftvp7cgp5vdVLgRckGc9Uk8E+NLJPfXEDhrbx21E9LSOloqCRyHgVONLFeUAxH/tFgw9aDLK7swAj2O/P4esoZAGEUYgon0WC2oiHYt9tsqxG2pTZOUhTYFidF1wGWZrc0R6jWzmZMJ9qQvB4JxhXu2u1SXHhvl2TSzKx5u0Awtko4iXlbaAIs2nQBCFUnOMvNAJVTdESjRO7eS4G2/Pdn3+WVyVvZ7thTQ476Vg4e0c57DOJWrg7Os/W+csLE/FmU3+SkPr09kGNnBOp/CcchaqP5rbT/g2iPEtOrSZ53gqpGtP7NQIgU+KllBThBrqA6AXsaMyAYeyqa+jU7L7K2ORJ8FFQKjLWg8QCH7zxrtPtFwJ+FnvwTDb0CJuoy1DGdf0TUvGA9hXmzEu6GHhKLM7oumYggfQU5nJaBIFDj++On9YC4x7gcH/D4YYrXZAY921iKZBY+jA1x4aGTI+ve01asbD//MgNNRCWBZi4Cy/u3JurQ41vDDkaSVQAvZiSD3UgwQuOt vKgddMar 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 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 06.03.25 16:48, Ackerley Tng wrote: > David Hildenbrand writes: > >> On 28.02.25 18:22, Fuad Tabba wrote: >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 at 08:24, Peter Xu wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 05:24:54PM +0000, Fuad Tabba wrote: >>>>> Add the KVM capability KVM_CAP_GMEM_SHARED_MEM, which indicates >>>>> that the VM supports shared memory in guest_memfd, or that the >>>>> host can create VMs that support shared memory. Supporting shared >>>>> memory implies that memory can be mapped when shared with the >>>>> host. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Fuad Tabba >>>>> --- >>>>> include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + >>>>> virt/kvm/kvm_main.c | 4 ++++ >>>>> 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+) >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h >>>>> index 45e6d8fca9b9..117937a895da 100644 >>>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h >>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h >>>>> @@ -929,6 +929,7 @@ struct kvm_enable_cap { >>>>> #define KVM_CAP_PRE_FAULT_MEMORY 236 >>>>> #define KVM_CAP_X86_APIC_BUS_CYCLES_NS 237 >>>>> #define KVM_CAP_X86_GUEST_MODE 238 >>>>> +#define KVM_CAP_GMEM_SHARED_MEM 239 >>>> >>>> I think SHARED_MEM is ok. Said that, to me the use case in this series is >>>> more about "in-place" rather than "shared". >>>> >>>> In comparison, what I'm recently looking at is a "more" shared mode of >>>> guest-memfd where it works almost like memfd. So all pages will be shared >>>> there. >>>> >>>> That helps me e.g. for the N:1 kvm binding issue I mentioned in another >>>> email (in one of my relies in previous version), in which case I want to >>>> enable gmemfd folios to be mapped more than once in a process. >>>> >>>> That'll work there as long as it's fully shared, because all things can be >>>> registered in the old VA way, then there's no need to have N:1 restriction. >>>> IOW, gmemfd will still rely on mmu notifier for tearing downs, and the >>>> gmem->bindings will always be empty. >>>> >>>> So if this one would be called "in-place", then I'll have my use case as >>>> "shared". >>> >>> I understand what you mean. The naming here is to be consistent with >>> the rest of the series. I don't really have a strong opinion. It means >>> SHARED_IN_PLACE, but then that would be a mouthful. :) >> >> I'll note that Patrick is also driving it in "all shared" mode for his >> direct-map removal series IIRC. >> >> So we would have >> >> a) All private >> b) Mixing of private and shared (incl conversion) >> c) All shared >> >> "IN_PLACE" might be the wrong angle to look at it. > > How about something like "supports_mmap" or "mmap_capable"? > > So like > > + KVM_CAP_GMEM_MMAP > + CONFIG_KVM_GMEM_MMAP_CAPABLE > + kvm_arch_gmem_mmap_capable() > > I'm just trying to avoid the use of shared, which could already mean > > + shared between processes > + shared between guest and host The reason I tried to avoid "MMAP" is that once we support read/write of non-private memory, the "mmap" is a bit too specific. Similarly "faultable". Hmmm -- Cheers, David / dhildenb