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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/10] mm: Introduce and use folio_owner_ops
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 20:02:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0124e8c9-20c5-4177-b8b1-a4f94220f86f@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzQxuAiJLbqm5xGO@casper.infradead.org>

On 11/12/24 8:57 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 03:22:46PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 12.11.24 14:53, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 10:10:06AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 12.11.24 06:26, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
...
> I've certainly considered going so far as a per-fs folio.  So we'd
> have an ext4_folio, an btrfs_folio, an iomap_folio, etc.  That'd let us
> get rid of folio->private, but I'm not sure that C's type system can
> really handle this nicely.  Maybe in a Rust world ;-)
> 
> What I'm thinking about is that I'd really like to be able to declare
> that all the functions in ext4_aops only accept pointers to ext4_folio,
> so ext4_dirty_folio() can't be called with pointers to _any_ folio,
> but specifically folios which were previously allocated for ext4.
> 
> I don't know if Rust lets you do something like that.
> 

As Rust-for-Linux student, I can answer that one: "yes".

Some combination of "newtypes" and Traits will provide exactly what you
need here. newtypes provide a zero-overhead type safe way of specifying
a type, and Traits can be used to require that only types that support
specific operations are accepted in foo().

(Rust at the language level looks a lot more like a replacement for C++,
than a replacement for C, imho. By which I mean, it has lots of goodies
for expressing things, built right into the language.)


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard



      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-14  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08 16:20 Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/10] mm/hugetlb: rename isolate_hugetlb() to folio_isolate_hugetlb() Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/10] mm/migrate: don't call folio_putback_active_hugetlb() on dst hugetlb folio Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/10] mm/hugetlb: rename "folio_putback_active_hugetlb()" to "folio_putback_hugetlb()" Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/10] mm/hugetlb-cgroup: convert hugetlb_cgroup_css_offline() to work on folios Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/10] mm/hugetlb: use folio->lru int demote_free_hugetlb_folios() Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/10] mm/hugetlb: use separate folio->_hugetlb_list for hugetlb-internals Fuad Tabba
2024-11-12 15:28   ` wang wei
2024-11-12 15:48     ` [RFC " David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/10] mm: Introduce struct folio_owner_ops Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/10] mm: Use getters and setters to access page pgmap Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/10] mm: Use owner_ops on folio_put for zone device pages Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/10] mm: hugetlb: Use owner_ops on folio_put for hugetlb Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 17:05 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/10] mm: Introduce and use folio_owner_ops Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-08 19:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-11  8:26     ` Fuad Tabba
2024-11-12  5:26       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-12  9:10         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 13:53           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-12 14:22             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-13  4:57               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 11:27                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-14  4:02                 ` John Hubbard [this message]

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