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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] kernel/fork: only call untrack_pfn_clear() on VMAs duplicated for fork()
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 10:45:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0101d903-af59-478d-b0e6-af5ba6619eff@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33b972a5-a137-4b5f-846c-614e5f83409f@lucifer.local>

>> Probably the right way of attaching such metadata to a VMA would be
>> remembering it alongside the VMA in a very simple way.
>>
>> For example, when we perform a reservation we would allocate a refcounted
>> object and assign it to the VMA (pointer, xarray, whatever).
>>
>> Duplicating the VMA would increase the refcount. Freeing a VMA would
>> decrease the refcount.
>>
>> Once the refcount goes to zero, we undo the reservation and free the object.
>>
>> We would not adjust a reservation on partial VMA unmap (split + unmap A or
>> B), but I strongly assume that would just be fine as long as we undo the
>> reservation once the refcount goes to 0.
> 
> Yeah this is a really good idea actually, almost kinda what refcounts are
> for haha...
> 
> The problem is we talk about this idly here, but neither of us wants to
> actually write PAT code I'd say, so this may go nowhere. But maybe one of
> us will get so frustrated that we do this anyway but still...
> 
> Then again - actually, is this something you are planning to tackle?

I hate this much with that much passion that I'll give it a try for a 
couple of hours, as it might fix the other issues we are seeing.  So far 
it looks like it cleans up stuff *beautifully*. Even VM_PAT can go ... :)

... and I think we still have space in vm_area_struct without increasing 
it beyond 192 bytes.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-24  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-22 14:49 David Hildenbrand
2025-04-22 14:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-23 14:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-23 15:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-23 14:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-23 19:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-24  7:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-24  8:45       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-04-24  9:49         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-24 12:33           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-24 12:49             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-24 12:52               ` David Hildenbrand

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