From: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: swapout selection change in pre1
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:22:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01011420222701.14309@oscar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101130003270.1262-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
On Saturday 13 January 2001 03:05, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > The swapout selection change in pre1 will make the kernel swapout
> > behavior not fair anymore to tasks which are sharing the VM (vfork()).
> >
> > I dont see any clean fix for that problem. Do you?
>
> What?
>
> It's the other way around: it used to be _extremely_ unfair towards
> threads, because threads woul dget swapped out _much_ more that
> non-threads. The new "count only nr of mm's" actually fixes a real problem
> in this area: a process with hundreds of threads would just get swapped
> out _way_ too quickly (it used to be counted as "hundreds of VM's", even
> though it's obviously just one VM, and should be swapped out as such).
Think its gone too far in the other direction now. Running a heavily
threaded java program, 35 threads and RSS of 44M a 128M KIII-400 with cpu
usage of 4-10%, the rest of the system is getting paged out very quickly and
X feels slugish. While we may not want to treat each thread as if it was a
process, I think we need more than one scan per group of threads sharing
memory.
Ideas?
Ed Tomlinson
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-01-15 1:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-13 3:28 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-13 8:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13 7:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-15 1:22 ` Ed Tomlinson [this message]
2001-01-15 2:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 9:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-15 8:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-15 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 18:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-15 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-15 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 22:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-17 23:40 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-18 15:38 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-17 7:19 ` Rik van Riel
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