Re: [PATCH v3 0/1] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions

[Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, Jerome Glisse wrote:

> > > This has been discuss extensively already. GUP usage is now widespread in
> > > multiple drivers, removing that would regress userspace ie break existing
> > > application. We all know what the rules for that is.

You are still misstating the issue. In RDMA land GUP is widely used for
anonyous memory and memory based filesystems. *Not* for real filesystems.

> > Because someone was able to get away with weird ways of abusing the system
> > it not an argument that we should continue to allow such things. In fact
> > we have repeatedly ensured that the kernel works reliably by improving the
> > kernel so that a proper failure is occurring.
>
> Driver doing GUP on mmap of regular file is something that seems to
> already have widespread user (in the RDMA devices at least). So they
> are active users and they were never told that what they are doing
> was illegal.

Not true. Again please differentiate the use cases between regular
filesystem and anonyous mappings.

> > Well swapout cannot occur if the page is pinned and those pages are also
> > often mlocked.
>
> I would need to check the swapout code but i believe the write to disk
> can happen before the pin checks happens. I believe the event flow is:
> map read only, allocate swap, write to disk, try to free page which
> checks for pin. So that you could write stale data to disk and the GUP
> going away before you perform the pin checks.

Allocate swap is a separate step that associates a swap entry to an
anonymous page.

> They are other thing to take into account and that need proper page
> dirtying, like soft dirtyness for instance.

RDMA mapped pages are all dirty all the time.

> Well RDMA driver maintainer seems to report that this has been a valid
> and working workload for their users.

No they dont.

Could you please get up to date on the discussion before posting?