From: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] Memory management facing a 400Gpbs network link
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:47:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0100016911623854-e69813aa-5820-4a46-a5d8-eb2943a83056-000000@email.amazonses.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3057d2336e88897309756a9c0e10727856589965.camel@surriel.com>
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-21 at 18:15 +0000, Christopher Lameter wrote:
>
> > B) Provide fast memory in the NIC
> >
> > Since the NIC is at capacity limits when it comes to pushing data
> > from the NIC into memory the obvious solution is to not go to main
> > memory but provide faster on NIC memory that can then be accessed
> > from the host as needed. Now the applications creates I/O
> > bottlenecks
> > when accessing their data or they need to implement complicated
> > transfer mechanisms to retrieve and store data onto the NIC
> > memory.
>
> Don't Intel and AMD both have High Bandwidth Memory
> available?
Well that is another problem that I omitted from the new revision.
Yes but that memory is special with different performance characteristics
and often also represented as another NUMA node.
> Is it possible to place your network buffer in HBM,
> and process the data from there?
Ok but there is still the I/O bottleneck. So you can either have the HBM
on the host processor (Xeon Phi solution) in a special NUMA node. Or you
put the HBM onto the NIC and address it via PCI-E from the host processor
(which means slower access for the host but fast writes from the network)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-21 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-12 18:25 Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 16:34 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-19 12:26 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-19 14:21 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-19 17:36 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-19 18:21 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-19 18:42 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-19 19:13 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-19 20:46 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-20 8:31 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-21 18:15 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-21 18:24 ` [Lsf-pc] " Rik van Riel
2019-02-21 18:47 ` Christopher Lameter [this message]
2019-02-21 20:13 ` Jerome Glisse
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