From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-f197.google.com (mail-qk0-f197.google.com [209.85.220.197]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976536B0003 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk0-f197.google.com with SMTP id y124-v6so15599005qkc.8 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 08:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a9-54.smtp-out.amazonses.com (a9-54.smtp-out.amazonses.com. [54.240.9.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t9-v6si5710869qti.326.2018.05.14.08.39.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 May 2018 08:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 15:39:33 +0000 From: Christopher Lameter Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] psi: pressure stall information for CPU, memory, and IO In-Reply-To: <20180507210135.1823-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org> Message-ID: <010001635f4e8be9-94e7be7a-e75c-438c-bffb-5b56301c4c55-000000@email.amazonses.com> References: <20180507210135.1823-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Johannes Weiner Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Andrew Morton , Tejun Heo , Balbir Singh , Mike Galbraith , Oliver Yang , Shakeel Butt , xxx xxx , Taras Kondratiuk , Daniel Walker , Vinayak Menon , Ruslan Ruslichenko , kernel-team@fb.com On Mon, 7 May 2018, Johannes Weiner wrote: > What to make of this number? If CPU utilization is at 100% and CPU > pressure is 0, it means the system is perfectly utilized, with one > runnable thread per CPU and nobody waiting. At two or more runnable > tasks per CPU, the system is 100% overcommitted and the pressure > average will indicate as much. From a utilization perspective this is > a great state of course: no CPU cycles are being wasted, even when 50% > of the threads were to go idle (and most workloads do vary). From the > perspective of the individual job it's not great, however, and they > might do better with more resources. Depending on what your priority > is, an elevated "some" number may or may not require action. This looks awfully similar to loadavg. Problem is that loadavg gets screwed up by tasks blocked waiting for I/O. Isnt there some way to fix loadavg instead?