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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	roland@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Revert pinned_vm braindamage
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:48:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0000013f620f4699-f484f28e-3d12-4560-adfe-3b00af995fd9-000000@email.amazonses.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130620114943.GB12125@gmail.com>

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> Peter clearly pointed it out that in the perf case it's user-space that
> initiates the pinned memory mapping which is resource-controlled via
> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK - and this was implemented that way before your commit
> broke the code.

There is no way that user space can initiate a page pin right now. Perf is
pinning the page from the kernel. Similarly the IB subsystem pins memory
meeded for device I/O.

> You seem to be hell bent on defining 'memory pinning' only as "the thing
> done via the mlock*() system calls", but that is a nonsensical distinction
> that actively and incorrectly ignores other system calls that can and do
> pin memory legitimately.

Nope. I have said that Memory pinning is done by increasing the refcount
which is different from mlock which sets a page flag.

I have consistently argued that these are two different things. And I am
a
bit surprised that this point has not been understood after all these
repetitions.

Memory pinning these days is done as a side effect of kernel / driver
needs. I.e. the memory registration done through the IB subsystem and
elsewhere.

> int can_do_mlock(void)
> {
>         if (capable(CAP_IPC_LOCK))
>                 return 1;
>         if (rlimit(RLIMIT_MEMLOCK) != 0)
>                 return 1;
>         return 0;
> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(can_do_mlock);
>
> Q.E.D.

Argh. Just checked the apps. True. They did set the rlimit to 0 at some
point in order to make this work. Then they monitor the number of locked
pages and create alerts so that action can be taking if a system uses too
many mlocked pages.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-20 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-06 12:43 Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-06 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-06-07 11:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-07 14:52     ` Christoph Lameter
2013-06-17 11:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-17 18:36         ` Christoph Lameter
2013-06-20 11:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-20 14:48             ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2013-06-21  6:25               ` Roland Dreier
2013-06-21 14:44                 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-06-13 21:06 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-17  9:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-17 12:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-06-20 11:34     ` Ingo Molnar

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