From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F5F8307 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (cantor2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2435B150 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:34:26 +0200 Message-ID: From: Takashi Iwai To: Greg KH In-Reply-To: <20150716155819.GA30423@kroah.com> References: <1489458.8WDRattPkl@vostro.rjw.lan> <1455994.zAMIqEIJx2@vostro.rjw.lan> <2869041.AWiygZspUy@vostro.rjw.lan> <20150716011056.GA8931@x> <1437038341.6856.22.camel@infradead.org> <20150716155302.GA2304@jtriplet-mobl1> <20150716155819.GA30423@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "Brown, Len" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Alan Stern , Kristen Carlson Accardi , Grant Likely Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] System-wide interface to specify the level of PM tuning List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:58:19 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 08:53:02AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > But the kernel already has quirk tables for various hardware, and that > > seems appropriate to continue putting in the kernel. > > For some types of devices, sure. For others, like broken USB keyboards > that can't handle autosuspend, no. For those we need a userspace > _whitelist_ that udev can use. So there's no one answer that works for > all types of quirks. That's my concern, too. If we give a single knob for all components, most likely some components shall be broken. And I'm sure that many of the breakage will be left unfixed due to all reasons you can imagine. Takashi