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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] How can we treat staging drivers better?
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 15:35:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hbm9ccbie.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)

The staging driver is a wonderful process to promote the downstream
code to the upstream, but I have doubt whether it's working really as
expected for now.

- Often the drivers live forever in staging although they should have
  been moved to the upper, properly maintained, subsystems.

- Code changes in staging are mostly only scratching surfaces, minor
  code style cleanups, etc, what checkpatch suggests.

- There are little communications with the corresponding subsystem;
  already a few times I was surprised by casually finding a staging
  driver code by grepping for preparing API changes.

- Then some drivers are pushed back after long time stay in staging
  (lustre is the recent remarkable case);
  it's understandable, but is definitely no happy end in both sides,
  after all.

So, I'd like to hear how we can improve the staging driver situation,
a better communication with staging driver people and the subsystem /
core devs.


thanks,

Takashi

             reply	other threads:[~2018-09-05 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-05 13:35 Takashi Iwai [this message]
2018-09-05 13:55 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-05 14:03   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:20     ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 14:41       ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:59         ` Shuah Khan
2018-09-05 14:51       ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-05 14:59       ` Joe Perches
2018-09-05 14:08   ` Sean Paul
2018-09-05 14:22     ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 14:29       ` Sean Paul
2018-09-05 15:35         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 16:21 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 16:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07 19:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-08  8:45   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-09-10 18:49     ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-10 18:52   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-10 18:58     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-10 19:22       ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-10 20:51         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-11  0:30         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-11  9:13         ` Greg KH

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