Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER TOPIC FOR KS] CoC and Linus position (perhaps undocumented/closed/limited/invite session)

[Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:52:03 +0200,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> 
> Em Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:36:45 -0700
> Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> escreveu:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 04:29:48PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > Em Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:02:08 -0400
> > > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> escreveu:
> > >   
> > > > > After the past 2-3 days I get the feeling there are maintainers
> > > > > unsure about how this affects them and I think assuaging those fears
> > > > > might be a good thing.
> > > > >   
> > >   
> > > > From my perspective, which is probably fairly widespread: we're already
> > > > pretty much policing the lists using a set of rules which match fairly
> > > > closely to the new CoC, so there should really be no huge impact.  
> > > 
> > > After carefully reading it a couple of times, I think it has a huge
> > > impact.
> > > 
> > > The more immediate impact is with regards to this wording:
> > > 
> > > 	"Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include:
> > > 	...
> > > 	* Publishing others’ private information, such as a physical or electronic
> > > 	  address, without explicit permission"
> > > 
> > > When we publish a patch with a Signed-off-by, Reviewed-by, Acked-by,
> > > Requested-by, Suggested-by, etc, we are actually publishing an electronic
> > > address.  
> > 
> > If they've posted public mails from that email address, that isn't
> > "private information" at that point. And in any case someone offering
> > such a tag would constitute permission.
> 
> Good point, but I'm pretty sure it opens multiple interpretation, as
> it explicitly forbids using "electronic address without explicit
> permission".
> 
> > (Publishing someone's private, otherwise-unpublished email address in an
> > Acked-by, on the other hand, *could* be problematic. Don't do that.)
> 
> Well, Requested-by, Suggested-by (and sometimes tested-by) is sometimes
> added by the maintainer (or by the patch writer).

Right, such tags are often used as credits of contributions, too.

Since they are no mandatory stuff like Signed-off-by, we may drop the
address part, though.


Takashi

> > Nonetheless, it probably couldn't hurt to have some notes on this
> > situation somewhere.
> 
> Yes, that's my point: that part of the CoC should explicitly exclude any
> electronic addresses that are used on public community-related channels,
> specially on e-mail [1].
> 
> Thanks,
> Mauro
> 
> [1] While this is not common, I merged in the past some patches whose
> developer included parts of discussions that happened at freenode's
> public IRC channels related to the project.
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