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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Cc: johan@herland.net, gitster@pobox.com, jason@lakedaemon.net,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TOPIC] Metadata addendum to git commit
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 07:58:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h4n0igxs1.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140522.064910.1233749401586905587.chriscool@tuxfamily.org>

At Thu, 22 May 2014 06:49:10 +0200 (CEST),
Christian Couder wrote:
> 
> 
> I told Junio and Johan about this discussion, and Junio, as he did not
> find a good way to subscribe to the list as a newcomer and still send
> a response to an existing thread, said that I can forward the
> following.
> 
> Johan agrees with Junio about this. I don't agree with their opinion
> about "replace".
> 
> From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>:
> 
> -- >8 --
> 
> Takashi Iwai says, in response to what Jason cooper wrote:
> 
> >> For the stuff flying by me, I've been adding the:
> >> 
> >> Fixes: <12-char hash>: ('Offending patch subject')
> >> ...
> >> I've also been contemplating adding
> >> 
> >> Coverletter: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/<First Reference Msg-Id>
> >> 
> >> for large series where the patch submitter has done a thorough
> >> writeup
> >> in the coverletter.
> >
> > Yes, this kind of information is helpful for checking patches at
> > later point, indeed.
> 
> I tend to think that:
> 
>  * "replace" is too heavy-handed tool to use in general.  Nobody
>    sane should publish history full of replacements for public
>    consumption, especially if that is done merely to help
>    bisection.
> 
>  * "notes" is very handy and may be an efficient mechanism to add
>    information after the fact to existing commits, but merging two
>    or more lines of notes histories together is cumbersome.

Do you mean that it's cumbersome from technical/performance viewpoint,
or about the appearance of actual text outputs?


> A good way forward to solve Iwai-san's original issue might be
> 
>  * Establish the "Fixes:" mentioned above as a standard practice.
>    Polishing Christian's interpret-trailers tool might be a good way
>    to encourage developers to do so.
> 
>  * Have an easy way for developers to scan incoming commits for
>    these "Fixes:" footer, and record the reverse mapping locally, so
>    that we can go from a commit whose brokenness is discovered later
>    to the commit that fixes its breakage efficiently.  "notes" may
>    be a good mechanism to implement this mapping, and we do not have
>    to worry about sharing the notes trees among developers.
> 
>  * The information is visible with "log --show-notes" if it is
>    stored in local notes.  When an earlier commit that was later
>    found to be broken is shown, the note that points at the commit
>    that fixes it will be shown.
> 
>  * Teach "bisect" to also take notice of this information, and
>    temporarily cherry-pick while testing commits with fixes that
>    were discovered later, in a way similar to what was suggested by
>    Jiri Kosina in an earlier message.

These sound like a good plan, indeed.

But, one missing, and maybe often happening thing is: people forget to
tag at the right time.  In the scenario above, if a maintainer forgets
to add Fixes: tag in the fix commit, it's all gone?


thanks,

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-22  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-13 13:25 Takashi Iwai
2014-05-13 23:23 ` NeilBrown
2014-05-13 23:29   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-13 23:49     ` NeilBrown
2014-05-14  1:40 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16  3:07 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-16  5:12   ` Christian Couder
2014-05-16  9:24   ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16  9:33   ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-18 19:23     ` Christian Couder
2014-05-18 22:12       ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-19  6:34         ` Christian Couder
2014-05-19 13:29       ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-20  6:37         ` Christian Couder
2014-05-20  7:06           ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-21  5:36             ` Christian Couder
2014-05-22  4:49     ` Christian Couder
2014-05-22  5:58       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2014-05-22  6:28         ` Johan Herland
2014-05-22  6:52           ` Christian Couder
2014-05-22  7:29             ` Johan Herland
2014-05-22  7:45           ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-22  7:49             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-22  8:03               ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-22 15:51       ` Theodore Ts'o

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