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From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	 ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The amount of -stable emails
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 23:39:58 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p1886464-9p9n-4p0r-52r7-70sqprsoo32q@xreary.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025080515-grandpa-prankster-ee83@gregkh>

On Tue, 5 Aug 2025, Greg KH wrote:

> > > This proposal is coming as a followup to the brief IRC discussion
> > > that happened a few months back.
> > > 
> > > The amount of e-mails that are coming (with maintainers directly
> > > CCed) as a result of patches being merged to -stable is so
> > > overwhelming that I am not sure that people are making any productive
> > > use of it whatsoever.
> > > 
> > > I am personally pretty much ignoring most of it, as (a) I wouldn't
> > > have time to do anything else otherwise (b) I don't have a sufficient
> > > motivation / time to invest effort into stable in the fist place.
> > > 
> > > I feel it'd be beneficial to discuss this, and (depending on the
> > > outcome)perhaps make it opt-in (or opt-out) at least, with
> > > people/subsystems  having means how to be excluded from all that ...
> > > ?
> > 
> > Actually, if stable emails just had a header tag, it would be easy for
> > procmail to sort them out ... which is what I've been asking for for
> > years.  X-Stable-Base: and X-Stable: seem to be reasonably common and
> > catch most of it, but codifying the use in the kernel documentation and
> > using them consistently would really help.
> 
> These "a patch has been added to the stable queue" has had the following
> X- tags on them since August 2023:
> 
> 	X-stable: commit
> 	X-Patchwork-Hint: ignore
> 
> and I'm sure I only added that because you, or someone else, asked :)
> 
> You can also filter on stable-commits@vger.kernel.org, which is what I
> do locally.
> 
> So filter away!

The question is whether it's really worth all the e-mail traffic this is 
generating, if people are just filtering those away.

For context searches if some particular information regarding stable 
patch history is needed, we can still do lore/lei queries nicely and 
easily.
Is there any other usecase (that people are actually actively using) for 
it?

Thanks,

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-05 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05 15:38 Jiri Kosina
2025-08-05 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2025-08-05 16:28   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-05 16:41     ` Mark Brown
2025-08-06  8:04       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-06 10:42         ` Mark Brown
2025-08-06 12:20           ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-06 12:24             ` Mark Brown
2025-08-06 14:57               ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-08-06 21:35                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-05 17:14     ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-05 17:59       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-08-05 21:04         ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-05 17:40     ` Chuck Wolber
2025-08-05 16:49 ` James Bottomley
2025-08-05 17:26   ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-05 17:33     ` James Bottomley
2025-08-05 18:01       ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-06  8:04       ` Greg KH
2025-08-05 17:34   ` Greg KH
2025-08-05 21:39     ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2025-08-05 22:34       ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-08-06  5:44         ` Tomasz Figa
2025-08-06  6:27       ` Takashi Iwai
2025-08-06  7:00         ` Jiri Kosina
2025-08-06  7:08           ` Takashi Iwai
2025-08-12 17:19         ` Steven Rostedt

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