From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
Cc: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:14:19 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.2407231528050.11380@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <676be898-56c2-4d26-a64b-5e25b7390899@oracle.com>
On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, Vegard Nossum wrote:
> With my distro hat on, I definitely think Fixes: should be used for
> anything that fixes a bug, regardless of whether it was a bug introduced
> with a new feature or it was a regression.
>
> Fixes: is incredibly useful in the following way: You can check whether
> you need to apply/cherry-pick a patch simply by checking whether you
> have the commit it fixes (or a backport of it) in your branch. As a
> distro (or even as a user), if you have a buggy commit in your branch
> and there's a known fix for it, you almost always want the fix.
>
> I don't really like the "Cc: stable # version+" tag for the exact same
> reason: Authors/maintainers may be looking at when the bug was
> introduced and decide not to put that "Cc: stable" tag since the patch
> that introduced the problem was in an earlier -rc of the same release or
> never appeared in a stable kernel _at that point in time_. But that's
> the wrong approach, as the fixed commit may be backported to stable (or
> a distro kernel) many years after it was merged into mainline (just look
> at all the commits with Stable-dep-of: in stable), and without the
> Fixes: tag we have no way to know that the fixed commit has a bug and
> needs to have subsequent patches applied.
For me, the biggest question coming out of this discussion is: what are
the groups / types of patches that should be getting "Cc: stable" despite
not being fixes for some older code?
As "fixing bugs" should be all what the stable tree is supposed to be
about, shouldn't it? (*)
One of the obvious categories is "fixing HW issue", being it either
mitigations for HW security issues, or adding new device IDs, adding
quirks, etc.
But what next?
(*) There is this famous defition at the beginning of
Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst
but I guess it's obvious to everybody that it doesn't apply.
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-23 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-14 12:31 Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 13:35 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 15:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-07-14 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 18:38 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 19:20 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 20:18 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-15 18:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-07-15 18:07 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-15 19:06 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 19:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-15 19:24 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 19:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-15 19:30 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 19:39 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-16 6:30 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 20:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 20:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-07-16 6:28 ` Greg KH
2024-07-16 12:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-07-17 22:05 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-18 7:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-07-18 14:48 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-18 14:56 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-18 16:36 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-19 0:49 ` NeilBrown
2024-07-19 1:35 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-19 11:55 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-07-23 14:14 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2024-07-16 14:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-16 19:38 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 6:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-14 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-14 18:47 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-14 20:27 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 23:05 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-15 8:02 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 8:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 12:48 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-07-15 12:52 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-07-15 14:34 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-07-15 14:40 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 15:00 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-07-15 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 15:19 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-15 15:31 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 15:42 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 15:10 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 17:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 18:04 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-15 20:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-07-16 6:25 ` Greg KH
2024-07-16 15:00 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-14 23:29 ` NeilBrown
2024-07-14 23:29 ` Steven Rostedt
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