From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
jgg@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful?
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 13:20:26 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.2407231320210.11380@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <668c67a324609_ed99294c0@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
On Mon, 8 Jul 2024, Dan Williams wrote:
> 2/ Device passthrough, kernel passing opaque payloads, is already taken
> for granted in many subsystems. USB and HID have "raw" interfaces
Just as a completely random datapoint here: after I implemented hidraw
inteface long time ago, I was a little bit hesitant about really merging
it, because there was a general fear that this would shatter the HID
driver ecosystem, making it difficult for people to find proper drivers
for their devices, etc.
Turns out that that didn't happen. Drivers for generic devices are still
implemented properly in the kernel, and hidraw is mostly used for rather
specific, one-off solutions, where the vendor's business plan is "ship
this one appliance and forget forever", which doesn't really cause any
harm to the whole ecosystem.
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-08 22:26 Dan Williams
2024-07-09 6:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 19:43 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-10 13:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-21 18:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 13:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 10:01 ` Greg KH
2024-07-09 12:25 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-09 12:33 ` Greg KH
2024-07-09 12:47 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-11 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 20:09 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-09 16:02 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-09 22:15 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-10 13:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 11:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 17:01 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 17:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 16:36 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-12 10:37 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-21 19:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 7:31 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 8:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 10:44 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 11:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 13:28 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 14:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 14:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-22 10:42 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-22 11:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 11:56 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 20:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 8:04 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 10:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:40 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 17:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29 9:58 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 10:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-31 11:54 ` Sakari Ailus
2024-07-31 13:15 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-02 15:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-13 10:17 ` Tomasz Figa
2024-08-13 10:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-13 10:33 ` Tomasz Figa
2024-08-13 10:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-11 13:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 15:16 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-11 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-23 11:20 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2024-07-23 11:36 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-23 23:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-24 20:12 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-24 20:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-24 20:37 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-24 21:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-25 19:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-25 20:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 23:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 8:04 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 12:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 14:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:43 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 15:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29 9:57 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 8:03 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 13:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:44 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 17:02 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 16:49 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-28 16:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 17:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-07-29 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-25 9:26 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 10:51 ` Wolfram Sang
2024-07-25 12:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 13:02 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 13:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 13:29 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-25 14:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 14:22 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 17:37 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-26 13:58 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 19:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 8:02 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 13:11 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:40 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 11:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29 9:56 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 10:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 16:01 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-26 17:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-26 14:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-28 16:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-27 0:16 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-28 11:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-28 15:16 ` Greg KH
2024-07-28 15:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-28 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-29 6:10 ` Greg KH
2024-07-31 12:33 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-31 12:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-01 14:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-07 0:06 ` Dan Williams
2024-08-07 0:13 ` James Bottomley
2024-08-16 11:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-07-29 14:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-07-29 15:16 ` Greg KH
2024-07-29 15:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 12:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 13:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-07-29 14:29 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 14:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30 13:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-01 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 15:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 22:37 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-30 7:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-01 14:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 7:14 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-06 13:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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