From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E13A9171A7 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718526665; cv=none; b=M/nedBZtheL/rgGj64q4SfaETwVwuocs7dUxy837uox6qcRlvnLOO5bmZmC2kbOK6lb52XqpFcx4l47P763A4VxXbIyNHl3QuEv1vqsRWKJcII8gKLZ+ASPbL5Zshp9X8VIvAwBzADkLb6NBAobVWcd986kJWUsZpxc9jXq1TZY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718526665; c=relaxed/simple; bh=gP2mUIUkV5ImN3MtOS0gPEBlF6a2qzhc3rVGAQ9VaaM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dhBgd5JYZ+eouuC09JkrtMnanM0ZIM0QFTnO27sGModmh7rjJscG1sGnGoDxjGrFlVTh1UqwXpioUEmsnGRAfmV2DYJ3jFH/Z0M4rGYBG5Kfyn+JrPdCBR6xZiDLoH5bQh32vwTANO2EQjqmarbtRBi5ITAsQjuojIVQ1Q40COE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=A9yIoeap; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="A9yIoeap" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18A61C2BBFC; Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:31:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1718526664; bh=gP2mUIUkV5ImN3MtOS0gPEBlF6a2qzhc3rVGAQ9VaaM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=A9yIoeapp1A4uyVcVsQaFcGgGVZr9TWyspUuSm377osILP9UalcLUcwjZLAxDGsv6 lDcSxWfVyx34iNTaOH+1QbNAu5PfTfB+U7oMRn1Klb1mKo1pMkl+tDaluEGUsEXZ2D nSnE+WkASOSdoFINopcSHDwYq4HpsHV8kzll6K0IMKFJeT/gypr41RtWZjTsX6jFh4 1FMVjXPBJjqKyaVt2UzeLQw5iKgfuUQ29i9Bse3WInk8MzPPPC/dbLuew6uNQUOcxl 81MdhlnC0yGF9oXU2Iu+/5wtjTZeTHAfsV2g6raJwyTAb/oCvinAT/Y6jBf7p4gKlZ jDhZ/v1ToXC4w== Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 10:31:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: Linus Torvalds cc: Michael Ellerman , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Paolo Bonzini , Takashi Iwai , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Jan Kara , Thorsten Leemhuis , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20240613095917.eeplayyfvl6un56y@quack3> <20240613-rustling-chirpy-skua-d7e6cb@meerkat> <87plsjoax6.fsf@mail.lhotse> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LSU 202 2017-01-01) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Jun 2024, Linus Torvalds wrote: > There is no excuse for that completely broken model. It's objectively > and unquestionably worse than having a "link". I think the 'philosophy' behind favoring Message-id over Link is that Message-id is set in stone forever, while Link is not. Should lore go away at some point in the future, something else will probably take over, and you'll be able to search for Message-id there, but the Link will not be functional any more (sure, you can extract the Message-id: from it manually). -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs