From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B26C9A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 21:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12B8E772 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 21:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 23:12:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: Laura Abbott In-Reply-To: <5c9c41b2-14f9-41cc-ae85-be9721f37c86@redhat.com> Message-ID: References: <5c9c41b2-14f9-41cc-ae85-be9721f37c86@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Greg KH , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, Laura Abbott wrote: > I also realize Greg is probably reading this with a very skeptical look > on his face so I'd be interested to hear from other distro maintainers > as well. As a SUSE distro kernel maintainer, I'd really like to participate if any such discussion is happening. Namely: - we're having a lot of internal discussions about how to adjust our processess to the changes happening in -stable tree process and patch acceptance criteria - it's becoming more and more apparent (and even Greg stated it in the few months old thread Sasha referred to) that stable tree is not really intended for distros in the first place; it might be useful to have this clarified a bit more. Namely: it's sort of evident that most of the major distros are running their own variation of the stable tree. Would it be beneficial to somehow close the feedback loop back from the distros to the stable tree? Or is total disconnect between the two worlds inevitable and desired? Thanks, -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs