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Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches From: Mimi Zohar To: Greg KH , Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley Cc: Sasha Levin , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:52:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3a357a63f67f3e6aff5e6d020d40b51fa24e0280.camel@linux.ibm.com> References: <0e6c7c8ed259dcb50631c6fdc3d86d3080bdc6f3.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <2024071528-cahoots-reacquire-9eab@gregkh> <3a357a63f67f3e6aff5e6d020d40b51fa24e0280.camel@linux.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-26.el8_10) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-GUID: g3vRNn8WzwRXO3suZSpyDjUS8QsDk5C- X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: g3vRNn8WzwRXO3suZSpyDjUS8QsDk5C- X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.293,Aquarius:18.0.1039,Hydra:6.0.680,FMLib:17.12.28.16 definitions=2024-07-15_07,2024-07-11_01,2024-05-17_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.19.0-2406140001 definitions=main-2407150102 On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 08:48 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 10:02 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 04:09:06PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 16:06, James Bottomley > > > wrote: > > > > But we know how to enforce a unified view of process: we document it in > > > > Documentaion/process ... > > > > > > Hahhahhahaahh. > > > > > > Ahh, you're such a kidder, James. > > > > Yeah, and that's the issue here, we have whole subsystems and many many > > maintainers and developers that do not follow this at all, hence our > > need to pull into stable commits that only have a "Fixes:" tag on it. > > > > Now we can start running a bot on all submissions that says something > > like the one that I have been doing for the USB subsystem for the past > > few months, here's the text I use: > > > > - You have marked a patch with a "Fixes:" tag for a commit that is in an > > older released kernel, yet you do not have a cc: stable line in the > > signed-off-by area at all, which means that the patch will not be > > applied to any older kernel releases. To properly fix this, please > > follow the documented rules in the > > Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst file for how to resolve > > this. > > > > But I doubt everyone wants to see that polute their mailing lists :( > > > > Anyway, if people want to stick to the current, documented, process, > > great, but as-is, trying to get people to follow that is rough and not > > really working. > > Sigh, I'm one of them, but I'd like to move to backporting "stable" only. > Unfortunately, the more that you backport "Fixes:" the less likely maintainers > (me) will remember to Cc stable. Other than email, is there a way of letting > you and Sasha know to only backport those with "Stable"?. Instead of sending > the email above to everyone, only send it maintainers who don't Cc stable > properly/haven't notified you that they will. The emails should get everyone > else's attention. :) Basically, reward good behavior, penalize bad behavior. Mimi