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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list
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On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 02:13 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:19:01AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false
> > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be
> > allowed.
> 
> This impression is, in fact, false, as has already been discussed
> elsewhere.

The use of fact above is instead merely an assertion.

>  I had hoped that discussion would suffice.

Nope.

> As mentioned there: The original commit explicitly said "Explicit
> guidelines have demonstrated success in other projects and other areas
> of the kernel."

Correlation etc...