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From: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Bird, Tim" <Tim.Bird@sony.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 06:03:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4f98276-ab5d-43ca-9662-017420154e4a@meta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251009091405.GD12674@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

On 10/9/25 5:14 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

>> Indeed.  All the more reason to enforce it at the source.  It then becomes
>> a cost for the contributor instead of the upstream community, which is
>> going to scale better.
> 
> Forcing contributors to pay for access to proprietary tools is not
> acceptable. Forcing contributors to even run proprietary tools is not
> acceptable. If maintainers want contributions to go through any
> proprietary tooling before submission, then this has to run on the
> maintainer side (be it on a maintainer's machine, in some form of CI, or
> somewhere else).

I strongly agree with Laurent here.

> 
> You're right that cost would then be a problem. I can certainly imagine
> $popular_ai_company sponsoring this short term, until we're
> vendor-locked and they stop sponsorship. I don't think rushing in that
> direction is a good idea.
> 
I don't think vendor lock in is a problem though.  We're in a phase
where there is a great deal of competition and innovation in the space,
and the prompts themselves are just english text against a general
purpose AI.

-chris


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-09 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-08 17:04 Chris Mason
2025-10-08 17:20 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-08 18:11   ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-08 18:35   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 17:57 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-08 18:04   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 18:14     ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-08 18:42       ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 21:08     ` Kees Cook
2025-10-09  1:37       ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 18:33 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-09  1:43   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 14:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-10-08 19:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-08 19:28   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 19:33     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-08 19:39       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 20:29         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-08 20:53           ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09  9:37         ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-09 12:48           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 19:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-08 19:50     ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-08 20:30       ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-09 12:32         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 20:30       ` James Bottomley
2025-10-08 20:38         ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-08 22:21           ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-09  9:14           ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-09 10:03             ` Chris Mason [this message]
2025-10-10  7:54               ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 11:40                 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-10 11:53                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 14:21                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 14:35                   ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-09 14:30             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-09 14:51               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 15:05                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10  7:59                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 14:15                   ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-10 15:07                     ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 16:01                       ` checkpatch encouragement improvements (was RE: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools) Bird, Tim
2025-10-10 17:11                         ` Rob Herring
2025-10-10 17:33                           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-10 19:21                           ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 16:11                       ` [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 16:47                         ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 17:42                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-11 10:28                         ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09 16:31               ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 17:19                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 17:24                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 17:31                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-09 17:47                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 18:42                     ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 18:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-10 15:52                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-10-09 14:47             ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-09 15:11               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 17:58               ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09  1:15         ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 20:37     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 12:40       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 14:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-10-10  3:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-10-10 14:12   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-31 16:51   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-14  7:16 ` Dan Carpenter

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