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8mT2Eh9SkH+YVOmaKsajgZgrBxA7fWmGoxXswEVxJIFj3vW7yNc0C5HaUdYa5iGOMs4kg2ht4s7yy7NRQuh7BifWjo6BQ6k4S1H+6axZucxhSV1L6zN9d+lr3Xo/vy1unzA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.3 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Wed, 2025-10-08 at 19:50 +0000, Bird, Tim wrote: >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Laurent Pinchart > > On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 09:08:33PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote: > > > > My goal for KS/MS is to discuss how to enable maintainers to > > > > use review automation tools to lower their workload. > > >=20 > > > Maintainers will want to use these tools, if they prove to be > > > useful. But ideally, we want the developers to use these tools > > > and fix the issues before they post code for review. That reduces > > > the maintainers workload even more. So Maintainers just need to > > > run the tools to prove that the developers have run the tools and > > > have already fixed the problems. > > >=20 > > > So i'm not sure your goal is the correct long term goal. It > > > should be a tool for everybody, not just maintainers. > >=20 > > This raises the interesting and important question of how to get > > patch submitters to follow a recommended workflow. We routinely get > > patches that produce checkpatch errors that are clearly not false > > positives. Rob Herring implemented a bot to run checks on device > > tree bindings and device tree sources because lots of patches fail > > those checks. I'm sure there are lots of other examples that have > > led maintainers to automate checks on the receiver's side, through > > various types of standard CIs or hand-made solutions. Submitters > > should run more tests, how to get them to do so is a broader > > question. >=20 > Maybe it would be worthwhile to annotate patch submissions with tags > indicating what tools have been run on them.=C2=A0 I know we're trying to > avoid overuse of commit tags, but maybe we could automate this a bit, > and/or' reuse the 'Reviewed-by:' tag in the commit message.=C2=A0 I could > envision, in some future workflow utopia, where a missing 'Reviewed- > by: checkpatch.pl AND claude AI review' would be grounds for > requesting these before human review. Realistically, we can't even get some submitters to run checkpatch, so I don't think the additional tag would help. What does help is having the 0day bot take a feed of the mailing list, select the [PATCH] tag and run checkpatch.pl as part of the tests, so someone could do the same with whatever AI acceptance tests are agreed. Although the problem with AI acceptance testing is that these models and the inferencing required to run them doesn't come for free so someone is going to end up paying for all this AI ... unless we can get some cloud company to donate it, of course ... Regards, James