From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Clarifying confusion of our variable placement rules caused by cleanup.h
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 11:23:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd6f099c-c28c-4b69-85f7-6012139fd646@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58fd478f408a34b578ee8d949c5c4b4da4d4f41d.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On 2025-11-18 08:39, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> For myself I do find some value in the C89 declarations at the
> beginning of the block for readability, so I'm happy to relax the
> mixing rule to cases where it's strictly necessary and require
> documenting in the comment what the necessity is. However, I do think
> we should, absent ordering problems, keep __free variables
> uninitialised and at the top of the block given we can detect any
> problem (and thus keep this rule absolutely for non-__free variables
> where there's no ordering issues). But, again, I'm less attached to
> this position than I am to the consistency one: I really think it's a
> bad idea to change the rules for one class of variables but not for
> another, so whatever we do, we should do it for everything and if that
> means relaxing the rule mixing code and declarations for everthing, I
> can live with that.
>
To me, a major win with pushing declarations down to first initialization or
thereabouts is that it implicitly reduces the scope of a variable (without
needing to create new blocks.) This can sometimes catch some pretty serious
errors.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-18 19:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-18 16:39 James Bottomley
2025-11-18 17:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:43 ` Al Viro
2025-11-18 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 22:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 23:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2025-11-18 20:28 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-25 13:09 ` Jani Nikula
2025-11-25 14:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-11-25 15:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-11-25 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-25 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
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