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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Clarifying confusion of our variable placement rules caused by cleanup.h
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 11:23:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd6f099c-c28c-4b69-85f7-6012139fd646@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58fd478f408a34b578ee8d949c5c4b4da4d4f41d.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On 2025-11-18 08:39, James Bottomley wrote:
> 
> For myself I do find some value in the C89 declarations at the
> beginning of the block for readability, so I'm happy to relax the
> mixing rule to cases where it's strictly necessary and require
> documenting in the comment what the necessity is.  However, I do think
> we should, absent ordering problems, keep __free variables
> uninitialised and at the top of the block given we can detect any
> problem (and thus keep this rule absolutely for non-__free variables
> where there's no ordering issues).  But, again, I'm less attached to
> this position than I am to the consistency one: I really think it's a
> bad idea to change the rules for one class of variables but not for
> another, so whatever we do, we should do it for everything and if that
> means relaxing the rule mixing code and declarations for everthing, I
> can live with that.
> 

To me, a major win with pushing declarations down to first initialization or
thereabouts is that it implicitly reduces the scope of a variable (without
needing to create new blocks.)  This can sometimes catch some pretty serious
errors.

	-hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-18 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-18 16:39 James Bottomley
2025-11-18 17:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 18:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:04     ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 19:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:43         ` Al Viro
2025-11-18 19:15       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:11     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:17     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 19:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:56         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 20:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 21:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:21       ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 20:30         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:51         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 21:10           ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 22:34             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 23:32               ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2025-11-18 20:28   ` James Bottomley
2025-11-25 13:09 ` Jani Nikula
2025-11-25 14:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-11-25 15:32   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-11-25 16:04   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-25 17:57   ` H. Peter Anvin

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