From: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: mchehab+samsung@kernel.org, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Handling of embargoed security issues
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:59:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd13e5bd-1d1f-4e0b-4a64-ee6251172888@sr71.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwiW9eeC0Z1+HnhCVzH=LmfBQfpdFZ0eYSuHdp5U6bpEg@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/08/2018 12:49 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So I don't do NDA's. Maybe some Linux Foundation NDA agreement
> technically covers me, but at least with the Intel cases, Intel is
> actually aware of my non-NDA situation and is fine with it.
My *personal* observation on the NDAs:
Companies don't actually care about the NDA being an NDA per se. They
really only want to feel like they are in control of the information.
They get that warm and fuzzy feeling from NDAs for normal
company-to-company interactions, which makes NDAs the go-to tool when
these security things pop up.
We (the community) are slowly showing the NDA-loving folks that <gasp>
they are not the _only_ tool available. But, it's going to take time to
change the mindset.
I *do* wish that companies like Intel who are actively doing these
non-NDA things would find some way to share their methods. Maybe the LF
can help here by providing a semi-anonymous way for folks to share what
has worked. Or, maybe folks like Intel need to just to it ourselves.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-10 23:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-06 19:18 Jiri Kosina
2018-09-06 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-06 21:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-06 22:51 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07 9:17 ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 14:43 ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-06 22:55 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07 8:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-10 23:26 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 8:45 ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 17:10 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11 18:28 ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 18:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-07 13:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-09 12:55 ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 19:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-10 4:04 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-12 7:03 ` Greg KH
2018-09-10 4:12 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 11:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-12 4:22 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-08 4:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-08 8:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-08 11:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-08 11:34 ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 14:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-08 15:29 ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 15:00 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 15:32 ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 15:54 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-08 21:24 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 12:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-10 22:59 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2018-09-11 8:48 ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 12:51 ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 14:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-09 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-09 14:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 17:20 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-09 17:48 ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-09 18:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 18:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-09 19:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 20:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-09 21:36 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-10 9:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-10 14:40 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 8:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-11 9:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-09 19:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-08 19:26 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-08 19:47 ` James Bottomley
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