From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:50:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c59cc4a0-7b57-4357-94dd-7763a15bc476@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b188d9e-3d47-4a30-8452-3e57e09cf8e3@efficios.com>
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 08:25:01AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-10-13 07:53, James Bottomley wrote:
> > There has been a lot of discussion on the tooling list about how the
> > loss of link trailers has updated both tooling and triaging issues.
> > Konstantin has proposed a tool to get around this, but while that's in
> > development, I propose a discussion about making Link (or some
> > alternative tag) into the pointer that would work for everyone.
> AFAIU. this use of Link trailer is used as a strategy to work around
> the lack of unique identifier in patch commit messages that identifies
> multiple revisions of a patch, for tracking by patch review tooling
> and facilitate digging through patch history.
I believe a good percentage of the people actively using the links are
people looking at test results (that's me, and a bunch of others that
I've talked to). My main usage is that I've got a failing test that
has been bisected to a commit that smells plausible enough and I want to
mail some people to tell them about the problem, I'm using the link to
grab a mailbox that I can reply to to reach a sensible set of people
with reasonable context. In this context I don't particularly care
about the history of the patch, nor whatever review happened. It's a
patch to email mapping.
> Based on prior email discussions I've seen, I don't think Linus is
> convinced that tagging commits with a unique identifier brings value,
> whereas people actively developing and using tools based on a
> workflow that relies on patch revision tracking see a lot of value
> in this.
TBH I'm not clear how the links/message IDs would be useful in that
context other than the history links which don't tend to get committed
since where people post them they're in the inter-version changelog
which gets dropped outside of DRM.
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-13 11:53 James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-13 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:50 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2025-10-13 14:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-10-13 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-14 19:12 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-14 19:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 22:01 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-15 22:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 10:16 ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Hans de Goede
2025-10-16 18:39 ` David Woodhouse
2025-10-16 7:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 20:23 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 8:08 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-10-13 15:40 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 16:31 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 17:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 17:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-13 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 19:35 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:34 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 20:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 20:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-13 21:46 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-14 14:23 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-14 11:09 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 19:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-14 16:01 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-14 17:46 ` Greg KH
2025-10-14 17:57 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:09 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:55 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-15 18:04 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-15 18:37 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-15 19:13 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 22:51 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 4:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-10-16 6:57 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 10:04 ` Jani Nikula
2025-10-16 11:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 12:29 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:00 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-16 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 14:36 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 14:58 ` Rob Herring
2025-10-16 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 15:52 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 19:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-17 2:27 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-17 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 9:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-17 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-16 12:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 13:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-16 12:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 12:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 21:29 ` Kees Cook
2025-10-15 21:40 ` Mark Brown
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