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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	 Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
		ksummit@lists.linux.dev,
	Linux Documentation <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation - update and future directions
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2025 08:29:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b20224870cd266f93e11ed8ac75c9e77478884eb.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frd4vfys.fsf@trenco.lwn.net>

On Tue, 2025-09-02 at 12:58 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> > 
> > The idea is not to override the search path: instead, to use it to
> > check if the user installed other /usr/bin/python3.* files (or on
> > some other part of PATH). Most distributions nowadays come with 
> > multiple python versions. I can't see a downside (*) of not using 
> > a newer version that the user had installed on his system and
> > has it on PATH.
> 
> But overriding the path is exactly what this would be doing.  It doesn't
> seem right to say "we know better than you do" and circumvent the
> configured path; the user may well have reasons for setting things up
> the way they did.

Absolutely! Please don't ever do this.

For example, use case we have: using nix-shell to lock down the software
used to build, for reproducible builds and similar reasons. Without --
pure, PATH may still contain (last!) software from the system itself,
but it should basically never be used.

johannes

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-03  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 22:55 Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-25 10:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-28 23:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-30 13:37   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-30 16:00     ` Vegard Nossum
2025-08-30 22:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-30 23:08         ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-31 14:03           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-31 20:16             ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01  6:17               ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 19:27                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 10:09             ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-01 16:51               ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 17:52                 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 18:15                   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 18:20                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 18:25                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01 18:40                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 19:51                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01 22:52                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:46                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:52                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 22:56                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 11:15                         ` Mark Brown
2025-09-02 11:59                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 12:14                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 13:00                               ` Mark Brown
2025-09-02 14:42                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 15:15                                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-02 17:19                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 18:52                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-03  7:47                                         ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-03 10:04                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 10:25                                             ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 18:58                                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-02 22:35                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03  6:29                                         ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2025-09-03 10:42                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 10:45                                             ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 10:54                                               ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 14:57                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 15:07                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-03 15:17                                                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-03 15:22                                                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-03 15:11                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 15:25                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 15:37                                                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-03 15:52                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 13:39                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 13:51                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-01 19:53                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01 23:15                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:37                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 19:05                   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-09-01 19:17                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-02 10:42                 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 11:55                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 12:07                     ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 15:07                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:26               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 10:55                 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 12:04                   ` Andrew Lunn

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