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From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 10:46:39 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1706261040560.30709@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzisqGwwG7nNabu_X7=CR45HBrrV4XhgSEw9RkED-A9yg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 24 Jun 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> > It is how the embedded world operates, RS232, or now more often, RS232 
> > with a built in USB-RS232 converter, so you use USB on the host.
> 
> I'm not saying that serial lines shouldn't be an option.
> 
> But for a *large* user base, they simply aren't.
> 
> On regular PC's, it's often not an option any more. Even in the data
> center, it's often not an option any more.

I don't really agree here. Yes, the mid-to-hig-end servers don't probably 
contain the actual UART chip any more, but the vast majority of those have 
somehting that's emulated in firmware, and actually do have a serial 
console line connector (not the 9-pin one, but rather RJ-45 with either 
Cisco or Yost pinout), which is then connected into serial-over-TCP 
concentrator box, exposing the serial console over telnet (or some 
proprietary client application). This is seen in DCs quite frequently.

Even machines that have very good IPMI support still ship with this.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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