From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A3EB3D for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from namei.org (tundra.namei.org [65.99.196.166]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB2AD118 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:06:30 +1000 (AEST) From: James Morris To: "Theodore Ts'o" In-Reply-To: <20150824235409.GD13446@thunk.org> Message-ID: References: <1440446941.2201.32.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150824235409.GD13446@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: James Bottomley , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Emily Ratliff Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Kernel Hardening List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > If the answer is that it's obvious what needs to be done, but (a) we > can't find anyone to bell the cat, or (b) the patches are going to be > rejected out of hand for one reason or another, the kernel summit is a > great opportunity to see if some face-to-face discussion address the > problem. OTOH, if the fundamental problem is that we can't get the > headcount funded, then discussion at the kernel summit is probably not > going to be a good use of our time. :-/ With my corp hat on, I find that it's much more difficult to find an appropriate developer to hire for this kind of work than it is to find funding for it. Emily seems to be facing the same issue, from her presentation at LSS. -- James Morris