From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD9519D for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DC9627C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:39:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: James Bottomley In-Reply-To: <1472498570.2376.44.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Message-ID: References: <1472403654.2420.29.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20160829090703.1c063975@gandalf.local.home> <1472486062.2376.26.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20160829121615.25e5ddce@gandalf.local.home> <1472496471.14003.14.camel@sipsolutions.net> <1472498570.2376.44.camel@HansenPartnership.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Johannes Berg , Linus Torvalds , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Owning your own copyrights in Linux List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, James Bottomley wrote: > > > Just for the sake of completness, the situation is quite > > > dramatically different in US (where the jurisdiction system is based > > > on common law, which means that employer indeed owns the copyright > > > in work created by employees), whereas in civil law systems, it's > > > usually legally impossible to assign the moral rights away from the > > > actual person creating the work (the employer just usually owns a > > > licence to the economic rights). > > > > *exclusive* license. That's an important distinction. > > Indeed: even under jurisdictions which make a distinction between > economic and moral rights (only the former being assignable), an > exclusive licence becomes the equivalent of ownership. You certainly > can't use residual moral rights to enforce a licence like the GPL > because that's mostly about economic rights. Yes, but economic rights can be assigned even in the other direction of course. I've seen contracts which made it possible for an employee to request an assignment of economic rights back in individual cases / for individual creations. Of course, it's ultimately still employer's decision whether the back-assignment happens or not, but worth mentioning as an option as well. -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs