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From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@sfconservancy.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:51:50 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1608291743340.22028@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160829113526.1081cbc4@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> What I read from you is that you feel that the SFC is too trigger happy 
> on the legal action side. If SFC were to say they really wont do that, 
> unless they get permission from the Linux kernel community as a whole, 
> would that make you feel better about them?

I, as well, pretty much agree with most of the things that have been said 
in the "lawsuits shouldn't be a regular tool to excercise GPL validity, 
there are a lot of other options which are more useful at the end of the 
day" tone.

However, to be fair -- isn't what you've written above exactly what SFC 
has been doing? Please correct me if I am wrong, but they are not 
executing any legal actions "on their own", are they? There always has to 
be someone from the community coming to them and initiating the trigger 
actions.

Now, if that is seen as a real problem, then a KS session just in between 
developers / maintainers, to shake out all the possibilities for Mr. Joe 
Developer in case of having really bad feelings about his code being 
misused, might be really helpful.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-29 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-26 19:33 Jeremy Allison
2016-08-26 21:19 ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-26 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 22:42   ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-26 23:02     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-26 23:58       ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-27  0:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-27  1:30           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-27  7:00           ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-26 23:54   ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-27 16:26     ` Greg KH
2016-08-27 21:18       ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-28  1:43         ` James Bottomley
2016-08-28  2:02           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-28  3:10             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-28  4:42               ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-28 20:51                 ` James Bottomley
2016-08-28  4:24           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28 12:55             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-28 14:06               ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-29  6:26                 ` Greg KH
2016-08-29 11:10                   ` Harald Welte
2016-08-30 17:38                   ` Mark Brown
2016-08-30 18:04                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 18:36                       ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-28 15:43               ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28 19:36                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-28 20:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-29 15:35                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-29 15:51                       ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2016-08-29 19:45                         ` Karen Sandler
2016-08-29 16:26                     ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-30 17:13                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-28 16:26               ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-28 19:58                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-28 22:54                   ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-29  9:01                     ` Harald Welte
2016-08-30 16:15               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 16:45                 ` Greg KH
2016-08-30 17:20                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 18:15                     ` Greg KH
2016-08-30 19:17                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-31  2:58                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-31 18:51                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-31  8:37                         ` Greg KH
2016-08-31 18:53                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 23:19                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 17:49                   ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-30 18:17                     ` Greg KH
2016-08-30 18:28                       ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-30 17:10                 ` James Bottomley
2016-08-30 17:16                   ` Luck, Tony
2016-08-30 17:40                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 17:37                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-28 15:37             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-28  5:09           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-27 23:02       ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-27 23:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-27 23:29           ` Jeremy Allison
     [not found]           ` <CAPeXnHsTskZhwS6Ckp=xRzxbwax9FrMc5gRFmFmySY-Pq3KexA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAPeXnHtqc5fYUV89H2E4g-SQmFNmc=3bj1NiCRVAWg=WoP0R7g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-27 23:30               ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-27 23:49                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-28  0:02                   ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-28  0:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-29 16:57                       ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-27 23:35           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28  4:47             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-28  5:17               ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28  5:38               ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-28  2:58         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-28  4:34           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28  8:04             ` Greg KH
2016-08-28 15:58               ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28  3:18         ` James Bottomley
2016-08-28  4:40           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-28  6:25             ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-29 11:24       ` Maxime Ripard
2016-08-29 11:50         ` Greg KH
2016-08-30  9:57           ` Maxime Ripard
2016-08-30 15:33             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-30 16:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-30 19:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-31  8:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-08-31  9:28                   ` Maxime Ripard
2016-08-30 16:55               ` Mark Brown
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-08-26  2:46 Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26  3:07 ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26  4:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26  4:48     ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26  5:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26  5:35         ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26 15:28         ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-26 16:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 16:48             ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-26 17:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 17:49                 ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26 19:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 19:29                     ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-26 19:45                     ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26 19:53                       ` James Bottomley
2016-08-26 19:55                         ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26 19:58                           ` James Bottomley
2016-08-26 21:41                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-26 23:04                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-26 23:34                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-27  0:03                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-27  4:00                           ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-26 19:59                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 16:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 19:36             ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-26 20:09               ` Jeremy Allison
2016-08-26 15:23 ` Karen Sandler
2016-08-26 16:37   ` James Bottomley
2016-08-26 17:19     ` Karen Sandler
2016-08-27 15:43       ` Greg KH
2016-08-27 17:14         ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-27 18:47           ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-27 18:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2016-08-27 22:50   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-28  7:47   ` Greg KH
2016-08-28  9:54     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-29 17:42     ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-29 18:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-29 19:04         ` James Bottomley
2016-08-30 18:00           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-30 18:25             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-30 19:31               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-29 20:19         ` Wolfram Sang
2016-08-29 21:31       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-29 21:52         ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-29 21:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-29 23:05           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-30  4:32           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-24  5:30 Karen Sandler
2016-08-24 13:08 ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 14:25   ` Karen Sandler
2016-08-24 14:39     ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-24 15:21       ` Mark Brown
2016-08-24 16:54       ` Randy Dunlap
2016-08-24 17:39       ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 17:54         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24 18:30         ` Wolfram Sang
2016-08-24 19:57           ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 20:19             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-24 21:13             ` Karen Sandler
2016-08-24 22:01               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-24 17:38     ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 14:38   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-24 14:44     ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-24 15:29   ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-24 17:47     ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 18:24       ` James Bottomley
2016-08-24 20:41         ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 21:09           ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-24 21:21             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-24 21:33               ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-24 21:42                 ` James Bottomley
2016-08-24 21:46                   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-25 16:27               ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-24 20:50       ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-24 21:54         ` Greg KH
2016-08-25  4:06           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2016-08-25  6:37             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-25  7:03               ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-25 20:03                 ` Dave Airlie
2016-08-25 20:20                   ` James Bottomley
2016-08-25 20:28                     ` Dave Airlie
2016-08-26  0:59             ` Greg KH
2016-08-26  2:30               ` Matthew Garrett
2016-08-26 16:34                 ` Luck, Tony
2016-08-26 11:49               ` James Bottomley
2016-08-28  7:48                 ` Wolfram Sang
2016-08-26 12:03             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-26 12:33               ` Christoph Hellwig

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