From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 755B5307 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prv3-mh.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1223620D for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:19:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: Steven Rostedt In-Reply-To: <20150717165501.62ed4e04@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: References: <20150716094720.2bf9f5ac@gandalf.local.home> <55A7C7FE.6000604@sonymobile.com> <20150716094125.16cdda73@lwn.net> <1437063875.18768.59.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150717101151.5d5bc86d@lwn.net> <20150717133712.42c82add@gandalf.local.home> <20150717190223.GB1499@cloud> <20150717154326.6f129bc4@gandalf.local.home> <20150717202412.GA1856@cloud> <20150717163903.67747d86@gandalf.local.home> <20150717204856.GA2048@cloud> <20150717165501.62ed4e04@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: James Bottomley , Dan Carpenter , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Jason Cooper Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Steven Rostedt wrote: [ ... snip ... ] > But that was an exception because the code submitted was really worth > while This really made me wonder. Maybe we should really focus on why such ocasions need to be pointed out as exceptions. Is it that Linux kernel development got hyped so much that everyone wants to have that bullet in his CV, no matter how stupid the submitted patch would be? If so, what should we do to change it? I.e. I might propose a a slightly controversial topic, going a bit the other direction than the whole "motivating newcomers" discussion: how to get rid of useless submissions that are slowing maintainers down? Should we stop publishing all the statistics? I believe there is no question that those are one of the primary drivers of useless submissions. Once maintainers get DoSed by submissions of wrong and/or useless patches that eat non-negligible amount of their time, we're in trouble. -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs