From: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
Sarah Sharp <sarah@minilop.net>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>,
Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:38:36 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1405022136130.29834@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140502193314.GA24108@thunk.org>
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> Furthermore, given that low level progams programs like systemd have
> grown to require control groups, it's not like you can even
> realistically strip it from potentially even many embedded kernels,
> since there seems to be a movement to have systemd infect even smaller
> embedded applications.
>
> Anyone want to lay odds on when systemd will start using various
> namespaces for its own purposes? :-)
This is actually interesting topic on its own (but I am not completely
what kernel maintainers could be realistically doing about it) --
userspace _strictly_ depending on _optional_ kernel features.
systemd and cgroups is a good example, but not the only one, I think. A
few weeks ago I was struggling to boot a systemd-based userspace, to find
out that fanotify needs to be turned on.
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-02 19:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-02 16:44 Josh Triplett
2014-05-02 17:11 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 17:20 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 17:33 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 17:46 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-02 19:02 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 19:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-02 19:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-02 19:38 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2014-05-02 19:49 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 20:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-02 20:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-02 21:01 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 21:19 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 21:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-02 21:36 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 21:27 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 21:39 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 22:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 17:18 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-09 20:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 22:50 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-10 0:23 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-10 0:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-10 3:44 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-03 17:30 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 21:56 ` tytso
2014-05-02 20:45 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-02 21:03 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-03 13:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-03 13:35 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-03 13:32 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-02 19:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 19:45 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-02 21:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 21:08 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 21:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-02 21:21 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-02 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-03 1:21 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-07 12:35 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-09 15:51 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:33 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-02 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-07 11:32 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-07 16:38 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 22:04 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-05 23:45 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-06 2:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-09 16:22 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-09 16:59 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-09 17:23 ` josh
2014-05-08 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-12 17:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-13 16:36 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-13 18:00 ` josh
2014-05-14 1:04 ` Julia Lawall
2014-08-17 9:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] tiny.wiki.kernel.org Josh Triplett
2014-05-08 16:24 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 0:31 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 16:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 16:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 17:21 ` josh
2014-05-09 17:42 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 18:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 19:02 ` Julia Lawall
2014-05-09 20:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-05-12 18:06 ` Dave Hansen
2014-05-12 20:20 ` Roland Dreier
2014-05-14 2:37 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-15 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 20:00 ` Greg KH
2014-05-15 20:29 ` Guenter Roeck
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