From: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:40:30 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1607271439250.3117@hadrien> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1469533716.120686.281.camel@infradead.org>
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-07-22 at 15:57 +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> >
> > > I guess that almost all functions return only a few possible error codes?
> >
> > Precisely. If we had a way of specifying "the return value is an errno
> > with the possible values '0', '-EIO', and '-EINVAL'" that would be
> > _so_ cool.
>
> And perpetually out of date. Because functions call through to *other*
> functions which might return an errno outside the 'known' set.
If you have a script to calculate it, it doesn't have to be perpetually
out of date. The problem is just the time to collect the information for
the whole kernel. It could be a good intern project.
julia
>
> Any why would you *want* to know the precise set of errnos that a
> function might return, if not to deliberately code your error handling
> non-defensively?
>
> I can understand wanting to distinguish between errors and non-errors
> and ensure that the ranges cannot overlap. But IS_ERR_VALUE() typically
> reserves the whole range to -4095 (-MAX_ERRNO) for that. And I don't
> think we'd ever want to do anything different.
>
> In particular I don't want anyone ever saying "oh, -123 is a valid non-
> error return but no other negative numbers are. But that's OK because
> it'll never *actually* return an error of -ENOMEDIUM so there's no
> ambiguity."
>
> Of course, that's a silly example... but it's precisely where it sounds
> like you're going, from the above citation :)
>
> --
> David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
> David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-19 15:32 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-19 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-19 18:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-19 20:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 15:53 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-20 17:04 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [TECH TOPIC] Support (or move towards to) LLVM Jiri Kosina
2016-07-20 18:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-20 18:52 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-21 9:54 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 13:41 ` Shuah Khan
2016-07-21 14:02 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 16:21 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-23 3:28 ` Behan Webster
2016-07-21 18:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-21 20:47 ` Paul Turner
2016-07-26 11:22 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 21:08 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel James Bottomley
2016-07-20 0:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 7:32 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-20 12:11 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28 3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-19 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-20 2:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:49 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 20:56 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 22:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-21 23:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 6:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 6:14 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 13:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 14:40 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 19:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-26 11:48 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 12:53 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-26 13:59 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-26 13:53 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-27 12:40 ` Julia Lawall [this message]
2016-07-27 13:25 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 17:21 ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-01 22:17 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-12 1:29 ` Stephen Boyd
2016-08-11 15:44 ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12 0:38 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-12 20:56 ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12 3:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 4:01 ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-12 4:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 5:29 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-08-12 5:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:04 ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12 6:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 6:37 ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12 5:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-04 7:15 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-04 11:19 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 7:03 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:10 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:13 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 11:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 17:18 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 18:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 19:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28 3:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28 7:12 ` David Howells
2016-08-02 10:48 ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 11:31 ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-04 12:07 ` Jani Nikula
2016-07-22 11:19 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 12:44 ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-22 13:26 ` David Howells
2016-08-12 4:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-12 5:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <87y442jytb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-15 23:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` NeilBrown
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