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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	users <users@kernel.org>, ksummit <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: slowly decommission bugzilla?
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:33:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaRqWUAqFDKVCqyF@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19bb78f4ef64941abc64b15e3a7afa807fcbe13a.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Sun, Mar 01, 2026 at 11:25:32AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
>On Sun, 2026-03-01 at 11:16 -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 01, 2026 at 11:01:07AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
>> > On Sun, 2026-03-01 at 10:23 -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > > As an example, this bug report came in today with no replies:
>> > >
>> > >   
>> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/DGRCO9SL0T5U.JTINSHJQ9KPK@imlonghao.com/
>> > >
>> > > I fed it to an LLM. It decoded the stack trace (as described
>> > > above), then traced the crash to iptfs_reassem_cont() at
>> > > xfrm_iptfs.c:905: skb_put() on a non-linear skb. It identified
>> > > the offending commit (5f2b6a9095743), the code author (Christian
>> > > Hopps), the relevant maintainers, and a couple more vulnerable
>> > > call sites in the same function. Not perfect, but enough to get
>> > > the report to the right people with useful context already
>> > > attached.
>> >
>> > Lore says there's been no follow up to that email ... shouldn't
>> > someone
>> > check with the reporter that the fix actually works?
>>
>> Hmm? I don't think that there's a fix available yet.
>
>In your report it identified a commit.  The next step it could take
>would surely be reverting that in a kernel the reporter can try.  In
>this particular case I admit the candidate commit looks like it won't
>easily revert, so perhaps based on the LLM's own advice, it could
>construct a patch and try that instead?

Ah

I'd probably want to avoid having it generate code and send it to users. I
don't want to take responsibility for potentially causing harm to their
systems.

>[...]
>> I don't want to send every single incoming mail through the LLM to
>> determine if it's a bug report or not. That would make it slightly
>> expensive :)
>
>Well, that gets us on to the problem of who pays for all our AI use;
>but while they're willing, I'm sure we can tap the vast funding
>resources of AI companies for this.

If the volume of reports is somewhere in the single or double digits a day we
won't even need to ask for any extras :)

>But since ksymoops already did it, there is a more deterministic way of
>picking oops reports off the lists before handing them over to AI.

I suppose we can grep for "Call Trace" to catch those, but we should still have
a story around bug reports without call traces.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-01 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-10  4:48 kernel.org tooling update Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-10  8:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-12-10 13:30 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-12-11  3:04   ` Theodore Tso
2025-12-12 23:48   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-12-12 23:54     ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-16 16:21 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-16 20:33   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-12-17  0:47     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-12-18 13:37       ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-18 14:09         ` Mario Limonciello
2026-01-23  9:19 ` Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-23  9:29   ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 11:47     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 11:58       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 12:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 12:29           ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 13:57         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 16:24     ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 16:33       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 16:42         ` Joe Perches
2026-01-23 17:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-23 17:23         ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 18:23           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 21:12             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 16:23               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 17:32                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 21:01                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:23                   ` James Bottomley
2026-01-27  8:39                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-27 21:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-04 10:49                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 10:14                           ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 18:07                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 18:23                               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:33                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-26 23:06                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 21:38             ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 22:55             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 16:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 17:02         ` Paul Moore
2026-03-08  7:21     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-03-08 10:24       ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 14:02         ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 18:42 ` kernel.org tooling update Randy Dunlap
2026-02-26  8:44 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-26 14:40   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2026-02-26 17:04   ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-27 11:07     ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-27 15:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` Mark Brown
2026-02-27 15:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Sven Peter
2026-02-27 15:35       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-27 16:22           ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:07               ` James Bottomley
2026-02-28 13:41             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-28 15:17               ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 17:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-28 18:29                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:26                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-28 20:28                       ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:56                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-01 15:23                           ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 15:35                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 15:42                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:13                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 16:27                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:01                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-07 16:19                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:15                               ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:49                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-02  8:55                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-01 17:33                               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-02 20:28                                 ` [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  5:39                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 12:44                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 13:17                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-03 16:35                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:22                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-03 19:09                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03  6:26                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-03  6:48                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2026-03-03  9:04                                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 12:45                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  8:11                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03  9:31                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2026-03-03 12:47                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 12:58                                           ` James Bottomley
2026-03-03 13:08                                             ` Jürgen Groß
2026-03-03  8:09                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 22:44                                   ` Helge Deller
2026-03-03 22:47                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:01                             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:16                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:25                                 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:33                                   ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-03-06 10:37                 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-06 10:44                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-15 14:58                     ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 11:28                       ` Greg KH
2026-03-16 21:56                         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17  7:51                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-02  4:59   ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 13:07     ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 13:28       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:08         ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 14:21           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-02 13:51       ` James Bottomley
2026-04-02 13:42     ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-04-02 14:04       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:15         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-04-02 15:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-04-02 16:04         ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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