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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 16:39:17 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aOa95ZFLXgaEh5PJ@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251008193349.GI16422@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 10:33:49PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 04:28:14PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 09:08:33PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > But ideally, we want the developers to use these tools and fix
> > > the issues before they post code for review.

> > Sure, as before, people should try to follow the best practices before
> > sending pull requests, its in the best interest of everybody.

> > But if they do so, and I guess most will, there will be more patches
> > flowing upstream, thus Chris effort, I think, right?
 
> I'd argue there will be less patches flowing upstream, lots of v1 (and
> sometimes subsequent versions) where maintainers point obvious mistakes
> will be avoided. The new v1 that would end up on the list will take more
> time to review than the old v1, but that's just because the new v1 will
> be the old v2.

Hopefully, but then all that time the contributors had to spend on
writing multiple versions for the same patch could be used to send tons
of good v1 patches, leading to more features, or dealing with lots of tech
debt most people have. :-)
 
> To make this happen, though, maintainers will need to be reasonably
> confident that obvious mistakes will have already been fixed.

I think maintainers can't take anything for sure, even when dealing with
contributors that posted tons of patches before :-/

And as you said, we can't count on contributors running existing tests,
or using things like linters, checkpatch, you name it, let alone AI
assistants.
 
- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-08 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-08 17:04 Chris Mason
2025-10-08 17:20 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-08 18:11   ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-08 18:35   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 17:57 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-08 18:04   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 18:14     ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-08 18:42       ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 21:08     ` Kees Cook
2025-10-09  1:37       ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 18:33 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-09  1:43   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 14:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-10-08 19:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-08 19:28   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 19:33     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-08 19:39       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2025-10-08 20:29         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-08 20:53           ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09  9:37         ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-09 12:48           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 19:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-08 19:50     ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-08 20:30       ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-09 12:32         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-08 20:30       ` James Bottomley
2025-10-08 20:38         ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-08 22:21           ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-09  9:14           ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-09 10:03             ` Chris Mason
2025-10-10  7:54               ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 11:40                 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-10 11:53                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 14:21                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 14:35                   ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-09 14:30             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-09 14:51               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 15:05                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10  7:59                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-10 14:15                   ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-10 15:07                     ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 16:01                       ` checkpatch encouragement improvements (was RE: [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools) Bird, Tim
2025-10-10 17:11                         ` Rob Herring
2025-10-10 17:33                           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-10 19:21                           ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 16:11                       ` [MAINTAINERS / KERNEL SUMMIT] AI patch review tools Steven Rostedt
2025-10-10 16:47                         ` Joe Perches
2025-10-10 17:42                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-11 10:28                         ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09 16:31               ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 17:19                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 17:24                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 17:31                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-09 17:47                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 18:42                     ` Chris Mason
2025-10-09 18:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-10 15:52                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-10-09 14:47             ` Bird, Tim
2025-10-09 15:11               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 17:58               ` Mark Brown
2025-10-09  1:15         ` Chris Mason
2025-10-08 20:37     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-09 12:40       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-10-09 14:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-10-10  3:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-10-10 14:12   ` Chris Mason
2025-10-31 16:51   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-14  7:16 ` Dan Carpenter

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