From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24C4F2F532B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755012353; cv=none; b=FYZqdgCtLxSsj34pQI0sLVSTO7owca7MjkeIqRmpZcNoGkcDC0G97MeN2kC1K+prE96YM/Yi6gpZQ95GX32U0aUD1rdX4xAQxlzfKvI15kvElV//nvdC3qxmrul7uWIR82zFnsPTnpxnQP6eagOTbYp3wy1sASE3Ca5Oya9txfU= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755012353; c=relaxed/simple; bh=sOtrJat7X2RP2j17C2bDTBiVcbRUpCWcy0t1QX4s/K0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=XCfpnRAgg/d5o7+wOOu5TS/hv+jiA4o/SXMO0SgpD7N3n+doJCtxjuhnrJgNYCUHfnnsbd3M6ufHDv0Ur+x8EYHSPBSY3r0qz7S9Wtfw1AaCJI/CdBkhNH8TwHTsU1EhUvAHhOz8zMFSNLV5YwKdBfmoSt+GlsGeYRemp/JXH5U= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=J2uIDWoW; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="J2uIDWoW" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3B56CC4CEF0; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:25:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1755012352; bh=sOtrJat7X2RP2j17C2bDTBiVcbRUpCWcy0t1QX4s/K0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=J2uIDWoWJ93qVX66GKTSVW38Ux/tIJStg2lwMpgZTIjA4qPc5S/0YQJ3pDzzSK4W6 kQ/ByQfxJBdbhh3fC1FsePiKAVubN5vUWEH37IDXt8ujHfdYGc0fC4GzQamH/MFPT4 greD/aPg5yGIU4geNA6aDrvzs3wlA+vSYJIE1F4JFVXOGwtax4oRLakuxjegO5RSfM hdR+K/QqW6BTyRF8BY6ncngGuppZolI4u+k6I9TKfG4zxbROS2l2IoSPZtALTiPDqm UR/7aKEDJ7iNF6zHVkWy6moI0yvL8AApCgjFoDOAla1eR5z6THGcYX0CfQEqu1SzR3 w/91bVE4C1JQw== Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 11:25:49 -0400 From: Sasha Levin To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Steven Rostedt , Lorenzo Stoakes , Dan Carpenter , Julia Lawall , "H. Peter Anvin" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The role of AI and LLMs in the kernel process Message-ID: References: <37BCAD5A-07C4-4119-89C2-D3A45C24DE18@zytor.com> <20250812103710.5faf83fc@gandalf.local.home> <3023b60f-69cf-4d77-b57e-c294d646daa7@paulmck-laptop> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3023b60f-69cf-4d77-b57e-c294d646daa7@paulmck-laptop> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 08:24:11AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 11:02:50AM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:37:10AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: >> > One thing I look forward to with AI is that it will likely help me debug my >> > own code. I suspect it would be really good at reading my code and say >> > "Hey Stupid! You forgot to free this value over here". And things like that. >> > In other words, I trust AI to debug my code more than I can debug its code. >> >> I'm surprised that this isn't too common of a practice at this point. >> Sure, AI will make mistakes, but I think that: >> >> 1. It's much better at reviewing rather than writing. >> 2. Mistakes aren't critical (you'd review it yourself anyway). >> 3. No legal issues. > >Ahem. Please do us all a favor, yourself included, and go count the >number of lawsuits currently in flight on this topic. For using AI for review, where it doesn't generate any code? I'd love a reference please :) -- Thanks, Sasha