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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The role of AI and LLMs in the kernel process
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 13:43:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJJCpFPuhIy_BKFa@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9902e53cd5c8ad444d6c62942e790b7ba5d756a.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 01:23:18PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
>On Tue, 2025-08-05 at 18:11 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 12:43:38PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2025-08-05 at 17:03 +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>
>> > > * On the other hand, there are use cases which are useful - test
>> > > data/code generation, summarisation, smart auto-complete - so
>> > > it'd perhaps be foolish to entirely dismiss AI.
>>
>> > Patch backporting is another such nice use.
>>
>> Patch backporting sounds pretty scary to me, it's the sort of thing
>> where extra context that needs to be accounted for is very likely to
>> come up (eg, assumptions you can make about existing state or
>> santisation).
>
>If you think about it, the git history contains the exact patch path
>between where the patch was applied and where you want to apply it.
>That's a finite data set which LLMs can be trained to work nicely with.

Most of the patches that fail to backport and get a "FAILED:" mail as a
result are really just either a trivial context conflict ar a missing
dependency.

Resolving those is within the realm of a "junior engineer" which I
suspect AI would tackle fairly well.

The other ~10-20% are indeed something more complex due to things like a
major rewrite/refactor/etc of a subsystem, where I wouldn't trust the
current state of the art AI to tackle. But mayble a few years from now?

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-05 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05 16:03 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 16:43 ` James Bottomley
2025-08-05 17:11   ` Mark Brown
2025-08-05 17:23     ` James Bottomley
2025-08-05 17:43       ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2025-08-05 17:58         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 18:16       ` Mark Brown
2025-08-05 18:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 18:46       ` Mark Brown
2025-08-05 19:18         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 17:17   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-05 17:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 18:23     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 13:44       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-05 18:34     ` James Bottomley
2025-08-05 18:55       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 13:50       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-05 18:39     ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-05 19:15       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 20:02         ` James Bottomley
2025-08-05 20:48           ` Al Viro
2025-08-06 19:26           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-07 12:25             ` Mark Brown
2025-08-07 13:00               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 21:26                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-08-12 14:19                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-06  4:04       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-08-06 20:36         ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-05 21:58   ` Jiri Kosina
2025-08-06  6:58     ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-06 19:36       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 19:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-05 18:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-08-05 18:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06  5:49   ` Julia Lawall
2025-08-06  9:25     ` Dan Carpenter
2025-08-06  9:39       ` Julia Lawall
2025-08-06 19:30       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 14:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-12 15:02           ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-12 15:24             ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-08-12 15:25               ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-12 15:28                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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