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8mT2Eh9SkH+YVOmaKsajgZgrBxA7fWmGoxXswEVxJIFj3vW7yNc0C5HaUdYa5iGOMs4kg2ht4s7yy7NRQuh7BifWjo6BQ6k4S1H+6axZucxhSV1L6zN9d+lr3Xo/vy1unzA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.3 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Thu, 2026-01-08 at 11:56 +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 04:20:04PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: > > On 1/7/26 13:15, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > > > Thinking LLMs are 'just another tool' is to say effectively that > > > the kernel > > > is immune from this. Which seems to me a silly position. > >=20 > > I had a good chat with Lorenzo on IRC. I had it in my head that he > > wanted a really different document than the one I posted. After > > talking, > > it sounds like he had some much more modest changes in mind. I > > caught > > him at the end of his day, but I think he's planning to send out a > > small > > diff on top of what I posted so I can get a better idea of what he > > wants > > to see tweaked. >=20 > I enclose the suggested incremental change below. >=20 > Cheers, Lorenzo >=20 > ----8<---- > From ccefc4da6b929914c754c2f898b0eb17d7fb3ebd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 > 2001 > From: Lorenzo Stoakes > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:55:10 +0000 > Subject: [PATCH] suggestion >=20 > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes > --- > =C2=A0Documentation/process/generated-content.rst | 8 ++++++++ > =C2=A01 file changed, 8 insertions(+) >=20 > diff --git a/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst > b/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst > index 917d6e93c66d..1423ed9d971d 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst > @@ -95,3 +95,11 @@ choose how they handle the contribution. For > example, they might: > =C2=A0 - Ask the submitter to explain in more detail about the > contribution > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 so that the maintainer can feel comfortable that the s= ubmitter > fully > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 understands how the code works. > + > +If tools permit you to generate series entirely automatically, > expect > +additional scrutiny. > + > +As with the output of any tooling, > maintainers will not tolerate 'slop' - Just delete this phrase (partly because it's very tied to a non- standard and very recent use of the word slop, but mostly because it doesn't add anything actionable to the reader). > +you are expected to understand and to be able to defend everything > you=20 > +submit. If you are unable to do so, maintainers may choose to reject > your > +series outright. And I thing the addition would apply to any tool used to generate a patch set whether AI or not. Regards, James