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8mT2Eh9SkH+YVOmaKsajgZgrBxA7fWmGoxXswEVxJIFj3vW7yNc0C5HaUdYa5iGOMs4kg2ht4s7yy7NRQuh7BifWjo6BQ6k4S1H+6axZucxhSV1L6zN9d+lr3Xo/vy1unzA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.3 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Thu, 2025-10-16 at 12:29 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: [...] > The Message-ID is largely useless without a List-ID at least, and if > the maintainer picks it up directly then they will never see the > List-ID and would have to add it manually.=20 Not really in the modern age. Lore would always be my first choice because it doesn't need to know the list to resolve if it's archived the message, but even if that turns up nothing, a search engine should be able to index it (well, eventually, it seems to take them a few days). Regards, James