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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1718713459;59b86f47; X-HE-SMSGID: 1sJXsm-0003Qq-Re On 13.06.24 13:34, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:34:17AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> I'd like to make the language somewhat stronger. >> >> """Handle mainline regressions that recently made it into a proper >> mainline, stable, or longterm release (either directly or via backport) >> with an even higher priority and try to fix them as fast as possible. >> [...] Aim hard to mainline a fix by Sunday after the next, if the > > Are we really telling people, some of them contributing in their spare > time, that they have to work during weekends ? To clarify: I'm not asking for that at all. The aim for Sunday is only here because Linus usually releases new -rc's on Sunday evenings, which quite a few people seem to use. So from the regressions point of view it's better to flush fixes to Linus late in the week (say on Friday -- or if you want on Sat or Sun, which some subsystem do), and not on a Monday, as people that use -rcs otherwise will run into the regression for yet another week -- and sometimes report it again, when the fix was just mainlined. What wording can avoid this? "By the end of the (current/next) week" maybe? In business context that afaik usually mean Fridays, but I'm not a native speaker, so might be wrong there. Ciao, Thorsten