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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linus-next: improving functional testing for to-be-merged pull requests
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:36:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zxe4XT59FhkZbgdq@sashalap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a627c5bd-e219-4d0e-a2d9-8dda44143d8c@paulmck-laptop>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 07:22:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 02:06:46PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>
>> > I have to ask...
>> >
>> > Wouldn't more people testing -next result in more pressure to fix
>> > linux-next problems quickly?
>>
>> I believe I brought up pretty much exactly this at this year's maintainer
>> summit.
>>
>> >From the discussion it turned out the many people believe that this
>> investing into this is probably not worth it, as it will require much more
>> continous, never-ending effort (for which there are probably not enough
>> resources) than just dealing with the fallout once during the -rc1+ phase.
>
>Thank you for the response and the information!
>
>But why won't this same issues apply just as forcefully to a new
>linus-next tree?
>
>Full disclosure:  Testing and tracking down bugs in -next can be a bit of
>a hassle, to be sure, but I expect to continue to do so.  For one thing,
>dealing with -next is way easier than testing patches on the various
>mailing lists.

I'm not trying to change the workflow here, I think all this amounts to
is just a quality of life improvement for Linus who could ideally merge
faster if he knows that the pull requests he's looking at will build and
won't brick his laptop.

If we start playing games around "must spend X days in linus-next", then
yes - I agree with you.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-21 16:07 Sasha Levin
2024-10-21 17:18 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-10-21 17:36   ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22  9:11     ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-10-21 17:24 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-21 17:30   ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-21 18:10     ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-21 18:36 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-10-21 19:44   ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-21 22:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-21 21:41 ` Mark Brown
2024-10-22  9:10   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-22 13:19     ` Mark Brown
2024-10-31 19:22     ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-21 23:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 12:06   ` Jiri Kosina
2024-10-22 14:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 14:36       ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2024-10-22 14:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22  4:54 ` Kees Cook
2024-10-22  6:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-22  8:12     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-22  9:55       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 11:51       ` James Bottomley
2024-10-22 12:47         ` Mark Brown
2024-10-22 19:33       ` Kees Cook
2024-10-23  2:24         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-23  5:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-23  8:20         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23  8:36           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-23  9:19             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23  9:23               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-23 10:11               ` Dan Carpenter
2024-10-23 17:51               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-24  3:59               ` Michael Ellerman
2024-10-24  5:01                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24  5:16                   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-24  6:49                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24  7:01                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-24  9:21                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24  9:24                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24  9:49                             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-24 11:08                               ` Mark Brown
2024-10-24 11:14                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-25 21:04                               ` Jiri Kosina
2024-10-24 14:39                       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-25  1:11                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-25  3:52                           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-25 11:18                           ` Mark Brown
2024-10-25 17:23                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-24 17:53                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-25  1:17                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-25  2:07                           ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-31 19:08               ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-31 19:19                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23  9:32           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-23 10:18             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-23 11:41           ` James Bottomley
2024-10-22  9:37     ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-23  5:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-23 17:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 18:05           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-23 18:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 18:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-23 18:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 18:37             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 19:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 20:22                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 21:20             ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-10-23 21:24             ` Mark Brown
2024-10-24  2:51               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 10:52     ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22 11:50       ` Mark Brown
2024-10-22 14:47         ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-22 15:25           ` Mark Brown
2024-10-28 22:46     ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-29  8:10       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-29 11:30         ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-29 12:46           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-29 15:07             ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-30  6:46               ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-30 14:10                 ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-31  8:13                   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-29  8:20       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-30 17:08       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-30 17:15         ` Sasha Levin
2024-10-30 17:32           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-04  8:49       ` Joel Granados
2024-11-04 11:01         ` Sasha Levin
2024-11-25 20:05       ` Joel Granados
2024-10-22  7:02   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-22  8:41   ` Benjamin Tissoires

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