From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3F34320D for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:43:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=RvJ6btVstunC4sS1SymReLeaSFeBaYeiuoBVBLuk0CA=; b=NaOM2H+2F/cWm6Ly14gVW8af3u y3rCqBvJShGZGeansx9fkozSzg8mmHORIXn+EoL7Za3Gz1AwjYbG9fgGTuzSDUiywY8qjobseF/ad 2zMeGbiSWJdcPF2z/lZmspLytUGn/oHP+RS0cZX7B8/QByMyUPl/11UeqHQIBa90xi92Um3GzXFnC LUFd5V4+L0Zx2yLdMLqFZ4Vv+evlXlNiissEIOoLwQHFJWegVN6lEwSuk378lDb/0YzMKDmCcrQnB YnUeK7NgxUoiwH3qWT5ENn2WluVyP/g5fwBGSsCvNXks6TnBgjzraYzQKjg3pUlg1lDlMIx9NsKZw 1ysZ5BNw==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1qki7q-00Dsq8-1x; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:43:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 02:43:34 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Dave Chinner Cc: Linus Torvalds , Jan Kara , Theodore Ts'o , NeilBrown , James Bottomley , Eric Sandeen , Steven Rostedt , Guenter Roeck , Christoph Hellwig , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS/KERNEL SUMMIT] Trust and maintenance of file systems Message-ID: References: <169491481677.8274.17867378561711132366@noble.neil.brown.name> <20230917185742.GA19642@mit.edu> <20230918111402.7mx3wiecqt5axvs5@quack3> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 02:56:45PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > That's the best argument for removing all these old filesystems from > the kernel that anyone has made so far. > > As it is, I'm really failing to see how it can be argued > successfully that we can remove ia64 support because it has no users > and is a maintenance burden on kernel developers, but that same > argument doesn't appear to hold any weight when applied to a > filesystem. > > What makes filesystems so special we can't end-of-life them like > other kernel code? Yepp. And I don't want to remove them against major objections. If we even have a single user that actually signs up to do basic QA I think it's fair game to keep it. Similar to how we deal with most drivers (except for some subsystems like net that seemed to be a lot more aggressive in their removal schedules).