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On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:16:31AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:

> Since then they come a long way, after a few generations of lost
> hardware that the kernel never supported properly, Android is
> pushing the Generic Kernel Image and being more restrictive about
> proprietary extensions every day. It's going the right way.
> Todd Kjos at Google and Greg Kroah-Hartman from the community
> have been instrumental here.

I do have some concerns about the effects of GKI on framework
improvements, by making it difficult for vendors to update any of the
shared APIs it pushes them into implementing anything they can't get
=66rom the frameworks in their drivers instead.  This means if they're
going to upstream things and do the best job possible they'll end up
working on multiple versions which provides a bunch of stop energy.
Life will be much easier for vendors if they just worry about their
specific devices as much as possible.


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