From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 457D42FB4 for ; Fri, 28 May 2021 15:11:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=DKqV70MMMK3G6vetpPVH3agOFHnwPsPuzF2wR4m/9r8=; b=EiNIcVQXpM/nr6D6KBoUNOviYJ /d+VzVV6EQmbOPYoJ2fsaoNxs+05SzPCb72qQuUNR1UVoa/DdpoGHza5kblsDuN73rG5Yh5IgXeVW a5tJFw8kX0WbgLn9ke23nLEhwfAycVa82ApYgkzJIAO0C8RSgVax5NS5sL4kApo1OXGk+oAYfzk0G cwQiIeyz8laGNuTQy9RKj5RSnZfYSNHvRNHA5aNIXouBbT1mbc3SQag5xfmqw34OBxx1r7ArBUogr +9z4/1YKrc6LdWlXgK0b1dGXivcm5GWP3QL/dAs5pSIWBPuIN8GG5+BBnsJlIRESAKhgjyTYq9PLm YPiYZekw==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lme9C-006jtR-8E; Fri, 28 May 2021 15:11:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 16:11:38 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox To: James Bottomley Cc: Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off Message-ID: References: X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:58:10AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 15:29 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Christoph Lameter wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > > > > > I know we're all really hungry for some in-person meetups and > > > > discussions, but at least for LPC, Kernel Summit, and > > > > Maintainer's Summit, we're going to have to wait for another > > > > year, > > > > > > Well now that we are vaccinated: Can we still change it? > > > > > > > Speak for yourself, remember that Europe and other parts of the world > > are not as "flush" with vaccines as the US currently is :( > > The rollout is accelerating in Europe. At least in Germany, I know > people younger than me are already vaccinated. I think by the end of > September the situation will be better ... especially if the EU and US > agree on this air bridge (and the US actually agrees to let EU people > in). > > One of the things Plumbers is thinking of is having a meetup at what > was OSS EU but which is now in Seattle. The Maintainer's summit could > do the same thing. We couldn't actually hold Plumbers in Seattle > because the hotels still had masks and distancing requirements for > events that effectively precluded the collaborative aspects of > microconferences, but evening events will be governed by local > protocols, rather than the Hotel, which are already more relaxed. Umm. Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1], which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has been exposed to someone who has the virus. I'm not convinced that holding a "more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea. [1] Depending exactly which vaccine, which variant, how many doses, etc, etc https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-preprint-from-phe-on-vaccine-effectiveness-against-the-b-1-617-2-indian-variant/