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From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"workflows@vger.kernel.org" <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] [v2] Documentation: Provide guidelines for tool-generated content
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 21:52:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ1PR11MB6083B928B445DF82EE5AE3EEFCCEA@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251110164225.4b343fe4@gandalf.local.home>

> I believe that's what is currently being argued in court. If AI is trained
> on human content and prints out something based on it, is it a non-human
> creation?  This isn't a case of a monkey taking a selfie, where the content
> provider is clearly non-human. This is a machine that uses human created
> content to derive new creations.

If the output were deemed copyrightable, who should own that copyright?

Option 1 is "The human that crafted the prompt to generate it"

Option 2 is "The corporation that spent vast resources to create that AI model"

Option 3 is "The owners of the copyrighted material used to train the AI".

If a court ever must decide which to pick, it may well pick the answer requested
by the best funded legal team (which would be option 2).

-Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20251105231514.3167738-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
2025-11-10  7:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-10  8:58   ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-10 16:08     ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-10 17:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-10 17:41       ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-10 17:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-10 17:56         ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-10 18:39         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 19:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-10 19:18             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-10 19:36               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-10 19:54                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-10 20:00                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-11-10 20:25                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-10 21:21                   ` James Bottomley
2025-11-10 21:42                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-10 21:52                       ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2025-11-10 22:07                         ` James Bottomley
2025-11-10 23:16                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-11  9:35                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-11 13:08                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-10 17:46       ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found] ` <11eaf7fa-27d0-4a57-abf0-5f24c918966c@lucifer.local>
2025-11-10 11:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
     [not found]   ` <103ee61c-f958-440c-af73-1cf3600d10fd@intel.com>
2025-11-10 16:51     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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